Why is Diversity Deemed to be A Good Thing?

[Solly]

The main argument I've seen is that when people of different genetic stocks breed, genetic illnesses, diseases and afflictions tend to be removed.

So, by allowing diversity in a nation, the policy implies that the quality of that nation's genetic stock will be maximised, creating a Master Race.

If that is the ultimate aim of diversity, to obtain a Master Race, how can those favouring immigration/diversity criticise other countries for wanting to keep - in their opinion - racially and ethnically pure. In their opinion, a similar ethnic stock might be the idea of top quality ethnic stock.

So the above discounts that theory of diversity.

Next are its downfalls. The vast majority of social problems in Western nations are due to the immigration of immigration and the lack of social cohesiveness that arises.

Indeed, many European states with their generous welfare reforms only work so well in some countries because it is a community. Everyone is the same colour. Everyone is dervied from the same/similar ancestors. Thus they are willing to help each other out at times at need. In a way, this is like the passing on of your genes, but in a macro sense.

Diversity offers no real benefits, and plenty of problems.

[Az]

I don't believe it holds any benefits per se, but I don't think it's fair to discriminate based on a person's ethnicity.

[Cruddy]

Re: Why is Diversity Deemed to be A Good Thing?

Originally posted by Boddington's
The main argument I've seen is that when people of different genetic stocks breed, genetic illnesses, diseases and afflictions tend to be removed.

Correlation; inbreeding causes birth defects. So non-diversity is definitely a BAD thing.

Originally posted by Boddington's

So, by allowing diversity in a nation, the policy implies that the quality of that nation's genetic stock will be maximised, creating a Master Race.

No, it just helps stop us degenerating into a bunch of right wing morons with 2 heads and 12 fingers.

Originally posted by Boddington's

If that is the ultimate aim of diversity, to obtain a Master Race, how can those favouring immigration/diversity criticise other countries for wanting to keep - in their opinion - racially and ethnically pure. In their opinion, a similar ethnic stock might be the idea of top quality ethnic stock.

Yes, but think along Darwin's lines. The fittest for any one environment flourish - the others do not. Having one basic type of human being is putting all your eggs in one basket, isn't it?

Originally posted by Boddington's

So the above discounts that theory of diversity.

My arse it does.

Originally posted by Boddington's

Next are its downfalls. The vast majority of social problems in Western nations are due to the immigration of immigration and the lack of social cohesiveness that arises.

I see. So the rest of history is a complete waste of time, and the fact that the rich countries have been exploiting the poor for so long is of no consequence. Crime is of no consequence. Social pressure caused by economic pressure is of no consequence. It's all down to the immigrants according to you.

You are a blind, simplistic fool.

Originally posted by Boddington's
Indeed, many European states with their generous welfare reforms only work so well in some countries because it is a community. Everyone is the same colour. Everyone is dervied from the same/similar ancestors. Thus they are willing to help each other out at times at need. In a way, this is like the passing on of your genes, but in a macro sense.

Diversity offers no real benefits, and plenty of problems.

Great. How are we going to pay pensions without immigration?

Who is going to pay for YOU when you are an old fart?

No answers from the BNP there.

Move to Austria Bods.

[Az]

It worries me that you people don't care about yourself dying off.

[Solly]

Correlation; inbreeding causes birth defects. So non-diversity is definitely a BAD thing.

Who is the considering whether something is a birth defect or not? To some nations, darker skin could be seen as more of a birth defect than having six fingers per hand, for example.

Great. How are we going to pay pensions without immigration?

By taking advantage of the demographic dividend we enjoy in such periods as between around 1963 and 1990 by having larger budget surplusses and smaller deficits in those period to pay for pensions in the future.

[Az]

The lack of social cohesiveness is not because of the different ethncities, but because of different cultures.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Azazel
I don't believe it holds any benefits per se, but I don't think it's fair to discriminate based on a person's ethnicity.

Studies have shown that teams and groups that are heterogeneous are more productive and create higher quality solutions than homogeneous ones.

[Solly]

And how are you separating ethnicities and cultures? Different ones of those are found together.

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by Boddington's


Who is the considering whether something is a birth defect or not? To some nations, darker skin could be seen as more of a birth defect than having six fingers per hand, for example.

Tell me that when you're dying of skin cancer.

Originally posted by Boddington's
By taking advantage of the demographic dividend we enjoy in such periods as between around 1963 and 1990 by having larger budget surplusses and smaller deficits in those period to pay for pensions in the future.

We've had it, seen it, and spent it. Now find a real answer rather than saying "oh, we COULD have done things different".

[Solly]

Studies have shown that teams and groups that are heterogeneous are more productive and create higher quality solutions than homogeneous ones.

Show me these.

[Az]

Studies have shown that teams and groups that are heterogeneous are more productive and create higher quality solutions than homogeneous ones.

Different in ways of thinking. Not in colour of skin, religion, music they listen to, etc.

And how are you separating ethnicities and cultures? Different ones of those are found together.

Example given: Fez is, ethnically, a North African. however, culturally, he's not.

[Solly]

Tell me that when you're dying of skin cancer.

Reverse the example. Who is the considering whether something is a birth defect or not? To some nations, lighter skin could be seen as more of a birth defect than having six fingers per hand, for example.

Hence no "diversity".

Now find a real answer rather than saying "oh, we COULD have done things different".

We need to learn from history. But OK..

i) Longer working lives
ii) More saving (spend less now in prep for retirement)
iii) Divert government funds from other sectors to pay for it, ie privatise NHS
iv) Increase birth rate of native population

[Solly]

The lack of social cohesiveness is not because of the different ethncities, but because of different cultures.

Example given: Fez is, ethnically, a North African. however, culturally, he's not.

So are we reaching the conclusion that diversity of ethnicities is no bad thing, but diversity of cultures is?

[Az]

That has always been my opinion. Also, there are cultures that are better and/or worse. There are also cultures that are roughly equal.

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Azazel
Also, there are cultures that are better and/or worse.

In your opinion.