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  • #61
    Originally posted by Thorn
    Yeah rubber bullets are fine... but whose wise idea are those ****ing wooden bullets? Those things hurt like hell!
    Why not rock salt shotguns? Those crack ribs... the Ecuadorian Riot Police use them and killed dozens.

    They should go home... and shut up. They have no point. They are pointless. They are useless. They hate progress and I hate them for it. They should just stay in their homes and be the hypocrites they are. But on the other hand they can protest. If they want to demonstrate their stupidity fine with me.

    Well I am just logging in from a netcafe. My time is limited... talk to you folks soon.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Fez
      They should go home... and shut up. They have no point. They are pointless. They are useless.

      ...

      Well I am just logging in from a netcafe. My time is limited... talk to you folks soon.
      In the future, you might save money at netcafes if you cut out redundancy.
      Tutto nel mondo è burla

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Boris Godunov


        In the future, you might save money at netcafes if you cut out redundancy.
        I got about six film roll cases of 1 peso coins.. and the internet is a peso an hour.. so I got plenty of time.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #64
          Those are the same bastards who cursed at me downtown when they saw my base pass.

          Bring forth the Holy Handgrenades on the protestors!
          Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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          • #65
            I am still wondering why the police in Gothenburg did not kneecap the stone throwers on the EU top meeting June 15 2001. Or even better, use sticky paintballs to tag and identify them.

            Instead they waited until they were pressed to defend a wounded colleague who had fallen and lost his helmet and fired almost blindly in chest and head level. One guy (who deserved it) was almost killed, while others (who did not deserve it) were missed by less than a meter from getting a headshot. The metal ringed from a bullet hitting a lamp post 50 cm from the head of a newspaper journalist.
            Last edited by Chemical Ollie; June 19, 2003, 16:20.
            So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
            Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Fez
              I got about six film roll cases of 1 peso coins.. and the internet is a peso an hour.. so I got plenty of time.
              Originally posted by Fez
              Well I am just logging in from a netcafe. My time is limited... talk to you folks soon.
              Are you utterly incapable of consistency?
              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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              • #67
                However, I personally have absolutely no faith in whatever results FDA has.

                Why so? They are properly regulated and well thought out real scientific studies.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #68
                  There is also another great protest happening these days. 19-21 June is the date of the EU Summit at Thessaloniki, Greece. About 100.000 people are expected to demonstrate this Friday at the summit site (Porto Karras, Chalkidiki) and this Saturday in the city of Thessaloniki against the EU and it's policies and also against the USA and the occupation of Iraq. There was a 20.000 people march against racism and xenophobia today.

                  I'm going up there tomorrow, I'm leaving with the evening train. Unfortunately I couldn't leave Athens earlier, but at least I'll be in time for the biggest demo.

                  All protesters feel at home in such demonstrations. As for the citizens, what's keeping them off the streets is their own hatred and fear rather than the demonstrators. They lose.

                  A comment about the right to occupy the streets: the same length of road which on normal occasions is occupied by 200 cars (roughly 400 people), when occupied by a marching croud, may hold a few thousands of them. Whose rights are sovereign in this case? Isn't the right of the majority? Surely these rights are much more justified than the rights of a few officials to shut down a whole city's centre for "safety reasons"?

                  I don't have much to say about the safety of GM foods. I don't know how grave a hazard they can be. What I know is that once a certain GM organism is unleashed into the environment, there is no turning back. So extra caution is necessary. Moreso if GM organisms are going to to be controlled by corporations, who have much less scruples about any environmental risks.

                  I also agree with those that say that GM organisms are a weapon of economic domination of the multinationals against traditional farmers. Because, even if the GM foods are actually totally safe, their effect will unfortunately be to send MORE people to poverty and starvation rather than the opposite. This is because that kind of competition will destroy hundrends of millions of small farmers worldwide and strip them from all means of sustaining themselves. Then they will have to sell all their land to the multinationals and go to the cities to live off industry in the best case, off crime in the worst.

                  This could be similar to what happened during the first industrial revolution, when industry took advantage of cheap labor from former serfs, who had been expelled from their farm, so that the feudal lords would grow sheep, which were needed by the textile industry for their wool. In order for a new economy to grow, an old economy must be destroyed. The problem nowdays is where the hell is that new economy going to come from, since all three sectors are systematically cutting jobs instead of creating them.

                  The world's food problem is not goin gto be solved by GM foods. The food shortage derives from the way capitalism works globally. If food productivity increases, food production won't increase, just the profits of the capitalists will. Profit balance keeps food in constant shortage to keep up the prices. On top of that the income inequalities have it so that a minority in the world wastes more and more grain to increase it's consumption of meat, thus keeping grain prices out of reach for the majority.
                  "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                  George Orwell

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                  • #69
                    Ah yes, Socialist-Anarchist-Communist Protestors. Go bath. Here's some Febreeze.
                    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                    • #70
                      The food shortage derives from the way governments of guys like Mugabe work.

                      Are you one of the riot tourists from Gothenburgh, Axi.?Then I hope the greek police is not the same pussies as the Swedish. Kneecap!
                      So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                      Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by skywalker
                        No, it doesn't.

                        However, the Republicans of the Civil War era were liberals, and the Democrats conservatives. In fact, the reversal of roles, which happened in the North a long time ago, happened in the South only within the last decade (in some places it's still happening). Tennessee, for example, until recently consistantly elected a Democrat for governor, despite being a conservative state, because in Tennessee the Democrats were the conservatives.

                        EDIT: I see the "Sava" you added now
                        I remember as a lad the color my Memphis grandparents' faces turned at the mere mention of the word "Republican". I remember also the warm feeling in my buttocks after saying it in the most innocuous of settings.
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                          And if you had functional mass transit systems, more people might use them.
                          Got one. Its called the subway. Every other city should send someone to New York to take notes and duplicate.

                          Even Dallas has fairly decent, if limited, light rail service. If all these newer cities hadn't allowed themselves to sprawl out so much ...


                          Better to **** them up if the weenies get out of line. If someone blocks me, they'd better have a lot of reinforcement, because if they don't get out of my way, they'll be eating pavement.
                          Sounds like murder 2. Guess you won't have to worry about commutes in prison - only weenies.
                          - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                          - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                          - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Lonestar
                            Ah yes, Socialist-Anarchist-Communist Protestors. Go bath. Here's some Febreeze.
                            Smellist!
                            - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                            - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                            - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                            • #74
                              No Olaf, I haven't even gone to Genoa. I do not believe in "revolutionary tourism". These demonstrations can only be successful if they are supported by the local population which is the great difference between Prague and Genoa, say. Neverheless, a strong international tone in such demonstrations enhances internationalism and brings home the message that the people of the world can unite against their common foes.

                              I can't understand your hatred about the Gothenburg protestors. Have they done anything to you, personally?

                              Lonestar, thanks for the offer, may we pay it back with some naphthaline for your moth-eaten brain?
                              "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
                              George Orwell

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by The Templar
                                Sounds like murder 2.
                                Sounds more like suicide on the part of the person standing in the middle of the road.
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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