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Originally posted by Sava
And how do they become economically self-sufficient without help?
And how do they become economically self-sufficient without help?
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I know this is a radical idea for a leftest, but let's create economic expansion so that they can GET A JOB!"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003 -
ACK! Sava and I cross-posted.
Libertarianism is an excuse to make greed morally acceptable. To the Libertarians anything that is fair is theft, an excuse for greed.
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or instead of giving handouts to rich people, hoping they'll provide jobs, how about the government invests in infrastructure and public works projects... creating jobs
"Economic expansion" = top 0.3% get richerTo us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Generally Sava, The rich are some of the most philanthropic people around. It sure would be a pity to lose that to the tax system.Originally posted by Sava
I'd like it to be... but saying half goes to descendents and half goes to HELP PEOPLE, isn't unreasonable. If philanthropy worked, government wouldn't need to impose it."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Then why should you get a say on how one gives out thier estate?Originally posted by Sava
I'd like it to be...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Who do you think invests the most in infrastructure? It is private industry, not government.Originally posted by Sava
or instead of giving handouts to rich people, hoping they'll provide jobs, how about the government invests in infrastructure and public works projects... creating jobs
"Economic expansion" = top 0.3% get richer
"Economic expansion" = top 100% get JOBS!"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Sorry I thought this was a Democracy...Then why should you get a say on how one gives out thier estate?
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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What does that have to do with you deciding how other people should spend thier money?Originally posted by Sava
Sorry I thought this was a Democracy...
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I can guarantee you my estate is NOT a democracy.Originally posted by Sava
Sorry I thought this was a Democracy...
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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No, I pulled it out of my navel.Originally posted by PLATO1003
Where do you get the $200,000 figure? Why not $20,000? Why not $20 million? This is just some arbitrary number that you pulled out of you a$$ because it fits your idea of what fair is.
These exemtions are just one more example of the left wanting to penalize sucess!
I just was thinking of betwen $10,000 and $1,000,000 and $200,000 semmed like a nice comprmise. That is also what my family views as the border between middle and upper classes.
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Navel? Well okay then!Originally posted by Odin
No, I pulled it out of my navel. I just was thinking of betwen $10,000 and $1,000,000 and $200,000 semmed like a nice comprmise. That is also what my family views as the border between middle and upper classes.
"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Yeah how many jobs did the 2001 tax cut create? or the Reagan cuts? oh yeah... those economic policies didn't create any jobs... in fact, the economy lost jobs...Originally posted by PLATO1003
Who do you think invests the most in infrastructure? It is private industry, not government.
"Economic expansion" = top 100% get JOBS!
How many jobs did the 1993 Clinton budget create? What did Clinton's economic policy do?
· Lower Deficits Mean Lower Interest and Mortgage Rates -- Saving Families Thousands. The government's share of total borrowing in U.S. credit markets has been eliminated from nearly 60 percent just six years ago -- which, according to the Wall Street Journal (5/7), has played a "major role" in keeping down interest rates. Since 1993, about 18 million families have refinanced their homes -- and according to the New York Times and Money magazine, these families have saved an average of $1,000-$2,000 per year in lower mortgage payments.
· Lower Mortgage Rates Mean Higher Homeownership. Lower mortgage rates -- along with higher family incomes, faster job growth, and the President's National Homeownership Strategy -- have helped raise the national homeownership rate to its highest level in American history.
· Lower Interest Rates Mean Faster Business Investment Growth. Under President Clinton, real business investment growth has averaged 12.5 percent -- the fastest since John Kennedy was President.Faster Business Investment Growth Means Faster Economic Growth and More Jobs. Faster business investment growth helps expand capacity and has led to faster economic growth and more jobs under President Clinton. Since President Clinton took office, the private sector of the economy has grown 4.0 percent per year, the economy has added 17.7 million new jobs, and unemployment has fallen to 4.3 percent -- the peacetime lowest in 41 years. America has the longest peacetime economic expansion in history.Giving rich people money DOES NOT CREATE JOBS.... it DOES NOT EXPAND THE ECONOMY...Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve Chairman, 2/20/96: The deficit reduction in the President's 1993 Economic Plan was "an unquestioned factor in contributing to the improvement in economic activity that occurred thereafter."To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Unfortunately the economy is running at about 75% capacity so building new factories and such is out. They may invest in business equipment, but that will probably result in less jobs as they make productivity improvements. The truth is there is little demand for an increase in supply to do much good.Originally posted by PLATO1003
Who do you think invests the most in infrastructure? It is private industry, not government.
"Economic expansion" = top 100% get JOBS!I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Sava, I don't know where your sources come from but I can tell you for sure that the borrowing of the federal government is not what has driven interest rates so low. The massive amount of money moving from the stock market into the bond market has done that. Of course, we don't want the rich people to have money for the bond market so then we should have 15% interest rates. This would certainly help the poor afford housing wouldn't it?
Actually, the Reagan tax cuts created a huge number of jobs. They just didn't appear overnight.
Bullcrap. The money goes one of two places. It is eithier spent creating immediate economic benefit or it is investedand therefore lowering the cost of things like production to interest rates.Giving rich people money DOES NOT CREATE JOBS.... it DOES NOT EXPAND THE ECONOMY..."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Check out the latest leaders Kiddo.Originally posted by Kidicious
Unfortunately the economy is running at about 75% capacity so building new factories and such is out. They may invest in business equipment, but that will probably result in less jobs as they make productivity improvements. The truth is there is little demand for an increase in supply to do much good."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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