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  • #31
    Imran:

    in all honesty, i want alcohol and tobacco criminalized too... the only thing is that America has grown rich off the two and it would be harmful to the economy if we stopped producing them... especially tobacco because if we stopped making tobacco then the hundreds of millions of smokers in the world will have to look to countries like Cuba and Venezuela which would become ridiculous rich as the sole suppliers of tobacco.

    so those two need to stay legalized for now at least.


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    • #32


      Why don't we let the people choose what is good for them and what isn't?

      A true capitalist would want everything legalized .
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


        Why don't we let the people choose what is good for them and what isn't?

        A true capitalist would want everything legalized .
        That's libertarian (or even anarchist) but not capitalist.
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        • #34
          Why don't we let the people choose what is good for them and what isn't?
          Not until the education system works good and children got parents and communities...

          A true capitalist would want everything legalized
          I'm not that much of a capitalist and you know it.


          thanks
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          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • #35
            Need I remind you of the prohibition era?

            Now apply the same thing to marijuana.
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            • #36
              looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on that, albert.

              although i agree that users probably don't have a good reason to take drugs, there are plenty of intelligent people who end up in the drug spiral because they were so desperate for an escape that they latched onto anything.

              i also agree that while demand will always be a problem, years of the war on drugs has neither truly lowered demand nor choked off supply; education has lowered rates, but the supply is still there.
              the way i figure it, if we come down much harder on the supply end of it while continuing educational efforts, we might be able to reduce it far more than we have in the past.

              so.
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              • #37
                Skanky:

                bad analogy... in 1919, alcohol was very wide-spread and very popularily used... far more than weed is even if plenty of people smoke today... it also had a long history (thousands of years ) of legalization and a sudden criminalization (especially as most americans found nothing wrong with alcohol) only caused problems...

                weed on the other hand is generally considered to be bad, even among weed smokers. it also has been illegal in the US for decades and illegal (or impossible to get) for hundreds of years before that (it is not allowed in Islam, for example)


                thanks
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • #38
                  criminalize alcohol, on the other hand... i like some beer, wine, and soju. social drinking isn't bad. it's people who get drunk that i dislike.

                  but to make alchol blanketly illegal? it ddn't work before.
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                  • #39
                    Q Cubed:

                    no... release dealers and give them college courses and job training so they won't become dealers... get rid of the supply and there'll be no demand... was there a demand for crack in the 50's and 60's? no... the emergence of dealers in the 70's and 80's caused demand to sky-rocket
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • #40
                      so what it boils down to is that we both want to eliminate supply, just with different means? makes sense.
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                      • #41
                        Q Cubed:

                        yeah but i also want the demand to be beaten down and locked in jail... drug users are not the demand-side of drug economics when they're in jail (though actually there is a drug trade in most jails but still...)


                        thanks
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Albert Speer
                          Skanky:

                          bad analogy... in 1919, alcohol was very wide-spread and very popularily used... far more than weed is even if plenty of people smoke today... it also had a long history (thousands of years ) of legalization and a sudden criminalization (especially as most americans found nothing wrong with alcohol) only caused problems...

                          weed on the other hand is generally considered to be bad, even among weed smokers. it also has been illegal in the US for decades and illegal (or impossible to get) for hundreds of years before that (it is not allowed in Islam, for example)


                          thanks
                          Marijuana is also widespread.
                          Marijuana has also been used for a long time throughout history.
                          Many people I know equate marijuana on the same level of "badness" as alcohol.

                          I'm not seeing much difference here.
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                          • #43
                            Weed is wide-spread but no where near the level alcohol was in 1919...

                            Weed has not been used as frequently as alcohol. it didn't exist in europe or america until relatively recently and it was banned in the Islamic world...
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • #44
                              cannibis is for pussies
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker
                                cannibis is for pussies
                                Spoken like a true crackhead (or maybe just a cracker)
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