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  • Friday the 13th: a "foreign brought" jinx.

    Aí öïâÜóôå ôçí... ÐáñáóêåõÞ êáé 13 åßíáé êáéñüò íá ôï îåðåñÜóåôå. Eßíáé ìéá äåéóéäáéìïíßá ðïõ äåí ìáò áöïñÜ. Eßíáé ìéá «îåíüöåñôç» ãñïõóïõæéÜ ðïõ, üðùò õðïãñáììßæïõí ïé ëáïãñÜöïé, äåí Ý÷åé ó÷Ýóç ìå ôçí åëëçíéêÞ ðáñÜäïóç Þ ôçí åëëçíéêÞ éóôïñßá.

    If you're afraid about... Fridy the 13th it's time to get over it. It is a "foreign brought" jinx which, as the laographers (folklore researchers) underline, has no relation with Hellenic tradition or Hellenic history.


    ¼ëá îåêßíçóáí ôçí ÐáñáóêåõÞ 13 Ïêôùâñßïõ 1307, óôç Ãáëëßá. Eêåßíç ôçí çìÝñá óöáãéÜóôçêáí 1.500 éððüôåò ôùí Náúôþí, åíüò èñçóêåõôéêïý ôÜãìáôïò ôçò åðï÷Þò ìå ìåãÜëç äýíáìç êáé áêüìá ìåãáëýôåñç ðïëéôéêÞ åðéññïÞ. ¹ôáí, ëÝíå ïé ðçãÝò ôçò éóôïñßáò, Ýíá ó÷Ýäéï ôïõ ôüôå âáóéëéÜ ôçò Ãáëëßáò Öéëßððïõ ìå óêïðü íá áðáëëá÷èåß áðï Ýíá ôÜãìá ìå ðïëéôéêÞ äýíáìç ðïõ ßóùò áðïôåëïýóå áðåéëÞ ãéá ôá ðïëéôéêÜ ôïõ ó÷Ýäéá.

    It all started on Friday 13th of 1307, in France. At that day, 1,500 knights of the Naites were slaughtered, a religious faction with gret power and even greater political influence.
    It was, history sources say, a plan of the then king of frane Philip, with the aim for him to be delivered from a faction with political power that may have threatened his political schemes.


    Ïé NáÀôåò, ùóôüóï, õðïôßèåôáé üôé ôçí åðï÷Þ åêåßíç êáôåß÷áí ôï ìõóôéêü ôçò êñõøþíáò ôçò éåñÞò óéíäüíçò (ôïõ óåíôïíéïý äçëáäÞ óôï ïðïßï ðéóôåýåôáé üôé åíáðüèåóáí ôï íåêñü óþìá ôïõ Xñéóôïý üôáí ôï êáôÝâáóáí áðï ôïí Óôáõñü).

    However, the Naites were supposed at that time to hold the secret of the hiding place of the holy sindone (the sheet upon which it is believed that the body of Jesus Christ was placed after they removed him dead from the Cross).

    ʼñá ç çìÝñá åêåßíç (ÐáñáóêåõÞ êáé 13) èåùñÞèçêå «áðïöñÜäá» ãéá ôç äõôéêÞ, èåïêñáôïýìåíç Eõñþðç. ÐÜíôùò ïé ¸ëëçíåò ëáïãñÜöïé èåùñïýí üôé ðñüêåéôáé ãéá ìéá îåíüöåñôç ìüäá. «KÜôé ðïõ ìáò Þñèå ìå ôéò ôáéíßåò ôïõ Xüëéãïõíô üðùò ëÝíå.

    hence that day (Friday and 13th) it was deemed «apofrada» (~despicable~/destructive) for the western theocratic Europe. However Hellenic loagraphers deem that it is a foreign brought fashion. «Something that came from Hollywood movies» as they say.


    «H åëëçíéêÞ ðáñÜäïóç èåùñåß ãñïõóïýæéêç çìÝñá ôçí Tñßôç êáé 13 êáé ìüíï. Eßíáé ç çìÝñá ðïõ «Ýðåóå» ç Kùíóôáíôéíïýðïëç (Tñßôç 13 MáÀïõ 1453)» åîçãåß ç ëáïãñÜöïò êá Ðüðç Zþñá.

    «The Hellenic tradition deems Tuesday the 13th as the only jinx day. It is the day that Constantinople "fallen" (Teusday 13th 1453)» explains laographer Ms Popi Zora.

    «Ïé ãÜìïé äåí ãßíïíôáí ðïôÝ åêåßíåò ôéò çìÝñåò, ôá óðßôéá Þôáí êëåéóôÜ ãéá åðéóêÝøåéò, ãëÝíôéá Þ ãéïñôÝò. ¹ôáí ìéá çìÝñá ðïõ ðáëáéüôåñá äåí êëåßíïíôáí åìðïñéêÝò óõìöùíßåò, ðïõ äåí ðáßñíïíôáí óïâáñÝò åðáããåëìáôéêÝò áðïöÜóåéò. ¹ôáí Ýíáò ôñüðïò íá èõìüìáóôå, ùò Ýèíïò, ãéá ðÜíôá ìéá "ìáýñç çìÝñá" óôçí åëëçíéêÞ éóôïñßá».

    «Weddings were never performed at those days, the homes were closed to social visits, festivities or celebrations. It was a day were, in older times, no trade deals were finilizaed and no serious professional decisions were made. It was a day for us to remember, as an ethnos, for ever the "black day" in Hellenic history»

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    Jason's going to get you!
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    • #3
      I always knew why teusday the 13th was the jinx day but I always wondered why the rest of Europe considered Friday the 13th as the jinx day.


      On a relevant note (hell am I lifting the average quality of OT or what) the Holy Sindone, or Holy Sheet, is residing in a museumin Germany (or is it some german town tht french took?)


      I remember i saw it once but don't remember which museum was it or which town.

      Any ideas?

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      • #4
        Friday the 13th was a sorrowful day for my order of knights....
        "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          Jason's going to get you!
          Doesnt he have to get the Golden Fleece first?

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          • #6
            In France, Friday 13th is a lucky day. At least, that's what the Lottery says. it always gives higher gains for the Friday 13th, and expects many more clients.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by paiktis22
              Doesnt he have to get the Golden Fleece first?
              You're no fun. You make a thread about Friday the 13th and don't know about the movies by the same name?!?!
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              • #8
                Yes monneypenney.

                Now go look for that museum with the holy sindone.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by paiktis22


                  Doesnt he have to get the Golden Fleece first?
                  I reminded one of my Japanese students about Jason and the Argonauts not too long ago. He had seen Friday the 13th and told me that it would be strange to name someone Jason after that movie. So I told him about the other Jason. Then I described that cool scene where he fights the skeleton warriors.
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                  • #10
                    My team's Gate number is 13. Which might explain why we've been losing the championship to Olympiakos for the last 7 years.

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                    • #11
                      Is it possible that they're just not very good?
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                      • #12
                        Of course not.

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                        • #13
                          The supernatural conspiracy becomes even more apparent when you think that the Gate number of Olympiakos is 7. Can't get more crystal clear than that.

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                          • #14
                            I was born in 13th... . I was lucky in the way most men can only dream.
                            In da butt.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by paiktis22
                              The supernatural conspiracy becomes even more apparent when you think that the Gate number of Olympiakos is 7. Can't get more crystal clear than that.
                              Just repaint the numbers on the gates.
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