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  • #31
    Well, what harm? That there's now a McDonalds with the other junk food offers?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by HershOstropoler
      Well, what harm? That there's now a McDonalds with the other junk food offers?
      i was talking more in terms of indigenous cultural expression.

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      • #33
        you mean trashing a mcdonalds isnt indigenous cultural expression in europe?
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        • #34
          Like what, exactly, PattyCakes? Give me an example of something that's being destroyed?

          So....gimmie an example of how "American culture" is wrecking another.

          And the bolded phrase makes perfect sense. If American culture is an conglomeration of all the cultures that define it, then it stands to reason that they're closely intertwined. if one destroyed the other on contact, as it were, then such a union would never have been possible in the first place.

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          • #35
            Hersh :

            I mean, "going out for American" is something obvious in America. It's so obvious that people don't mention they go to an American restaurant, but to what kind of restaurant. They don't do such a distinction for Chinese restaurants. By the same token, people in China don't say "let's go out for Chinese", because Chinese culture is omnipresent there.

            The day when the Americans consider "American" restaurants as some standardised, interchangeable thing, while they'll make the difference between Chinese chicken-restaurants, Chinese pork-restaurants, Chinese seafood-restaurant and Chinese fastfood (to the point it becomes pointless to say the word "Chinese" anymore), is the day where American food will lose the cultural upper hand, at least when it comes to cuisine.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by MRT144
              you mean trashing a mcdonalds isnt indigenous cultural expression in europe?
              It's just a french past time, like boule.
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              • #37
                example: australia: overwelhmed by american films on TV in the past.

                local production virtually grinded to a halt.


                restrictive measures taken, indigenous production started to flourish again.

                as to why this is better than just imports, its a bit too long to explain but it has to do with expressional tools and local realities.


                its not so much a danger for countries like the continental europe but there is a negative effect.

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                • #38
                  America is an overful cultural crapper and I can't find the flush.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MRT144
                    you mean trashing a mcdonalds isnt indigenous cultural expression in europe?
                    unless antiamericanism is anintegral part of ones cultural identity, no.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Spiffor
                      Hersh :

                      I mean, "going out for American" is something obvious in America. It's so obvious that people don't mention they go to an American restaurant, but to what kind of restaurant.
                      I've never heard "Let's go out for austrian". Do you say "Let's go out for french"?
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by MRT144
                        you mean trashing a mcdonalds isnt indigenous cultural expression in europe?
                        I sure hopes it becomes so
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Velociryx

                          And the bolded phrase makes perfect sense. If American culture is an conglomeration of all the cultures that define it, then it stands to reason that they're closely intertwined. if one destroyed the other on contact, as it were, then such a union would never have been possible in the first place.

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                          that doesn make sense either.

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                          • #43
                            What you're talking about is economic protectionism, pure and simple. It has nothing to do with cultural preservation. The same thing has been seen in EVERY major industry in the economy. Cars, electronics, beef....the works.

                            If there's a market for locally produced Aussie TV and movies, then it'll flourish anyway. If you have to ban imports to MAKE it flourish, then maybe it doesn't need to flourish in the first place? (I mean, if it can't stand up to the competition, then why should it flourish?)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                              I've never heard "Let's go out for austrian". Do you say "Let's go out for french"?
                              Nope, but I would probably say so if I was living in the US (actually no, I heard French restaurants in the US suck bigtime )

                              But I have heard it when it came to movies.

                              Besides, I'm currently living in Germany, and I always say "let's go eat a Döner" or "let's go eat a Pide". The few times I go to eat German food, I say "Let's go out for German", or "Let's go out for Schwäbisch".
                              To me, Turkish joints are the main perk of Stuttgart's cuisine... I'm sure that wouldn't really please the locals
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                              • #45
                                versomething,

                                american programs are cheaper, so TV stations prefered them over local ones.


                                protectionism is proven to lead to a pick up of modern expressional media production in many places of the world.


                                cant have open markets when everything you get is american (australia in case but also other countries)

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