Zimbabwe

[Worthingtons]

Why is the Western world not taking action to remove Mugabe?? How come he walk freely through England on his way to other nations??
He has recently had the cheek to say that he wont tolerate UK and the US supporting alternative political groups - whats he going to us, we'd destroy them quicker than Iraq. so why do we tolerate what is going on there??
Why havent we liberated Zimbabwe like we did Iraq, or more recently congo, or it just because those being oppressed are White??
If we so interested in being the world policemen we should be acting against this dictator now!!

[Dinner]

Mugabe is a racist, facist swine but I suspect we have come to expect nothing less from African dictators.

[DinoDoc]

Re: Zimbabwe

Originally posted by Rothy
Why is the Western world not taking action to remove Mugabe?? How come he walk freely through England on his way to other nations??

Don't you mean France? They were the one's throwing thier weight around in order to allow him to travel through the EU while the organization had sanctions on him.

[RGBVideo]

Mugabe's not racist, he's just playing one to gain support... a bit like british BNP.

I wouldn't also call him fascist, though a corrupted socialist, he is.

Why havent we liberated Zimbabwe like we did Iraq, or more recently congo

Wait... 'you' have 'liberated' Congo?

If we so interested in being the world policemen we should be acting against this dictator now!!

Ya, 'we' should... but there is no oil in Zimbabwe, so I doubt that US is interested, and other nations don't have the necessary militiary.

[Whaleboy]

"Mugabe's not racist, he's just playing one to gain support... a bit like british BNP"

Arent the BNP racist but playing non-racist to gain support (something I find wholly more disturbing)?

Mugabe is, in our eyes, a bit of a b&stard, but unless he attacks another nation, or there is a civil war with a viable side we can assist (although that is open to interpretation with the MDC), then I dont see war being justified (in my eyes that is).

The reason why it hasnt happened thus far is because of the lack of political and economic capital to be gained by such a military action. Also consider that if this was done by the British, or indeed anyone who represents the West, this would only serve to fuel the resentment in the majority population of Zimbabwe against the British and the West for colonialisation and neo-colonialisation. As such, rebuilding efforts would be even harder in Zimbabwe than in Iraq!!!

It would seem that the majority of Zimbabwans for one reason or another (be that fear but objectively, that is irrelevant), are in favour of Mugabe (and I'm not looking at last years "elections" as my reasoning, more of a general impression one gets), so that would completely rule a war out, although this support might change with the economy, I believe the rate of inflation is over 200%.

[Whaleboy]

"They were the one's throwing thier weight around in order to allow him to travel through the EU"

I think they allowed him to go to France in order to have a political conference. Paris is somewhat safer than Harare.

[Whaleboy]

If we so interested in being the world policemen we should be acting against this dictator now!!

If we are the worlds policeman, we should promptly give that badge back to the UN, release the legitimate policemans handcuffs, and repair the damage done to that honourable organisation through US/UK imperialism and the war, years of corruption and inefficiency, and capitalise on repairing its faults and emphasising its many successes.

[Pekka]

We are waiting for Mugabes nuclear program to pick up little more.. it's still 1 year from him having nukes, so expect liberating in.. 6 months. It's too hot in Africa right now. Soldiers hate warm water and diarrhea they'll get there.

[Lazerus]

Should have just stuck a MI6 sniper on a rooftop in France and taken him out while he was there, would have been rather amusing to see it on the news. Is Zimbabwes food production still dropping ?

[Pekka]

I figure it's cheap just to go there and bust our ways in, get Mugabe and build a sauna so we can take him to the back of it. I'm sure, that the people of Zimbabwe would be so much better without him, and it would be humanitarian action. It would do more good than harm, and I think there is a good chance of the people not getting any revenge strikes from some rebels, because we might just shoot them too when were at it.

It could be cheap too. Definitely worth it. And while were at it, we could remove some safe havens from earlier dictators like Imi Adin...

[Pekka]

I mean, what kind of levarage does Mugabe use to keep us quiet? What kind of secret weapon he has? Can't be that good, let's just waste him.

[RGBVideo]

I mean, what kind of levarage does Mugabe use to keep us quiet? What kind of secret weapon he has? Can't be that good, let's just waste him.

Mugabe is, in our eyes, a bit of a b&stard, but unless he attacks another nation, or there is a civil war with a viable side we can assist (although that is open to interpretation with the MDC), then I dont see war being justified (in my eyes that is).

Hippies...

we should promptly give that badge back to the UN

Yes, UN needs desperately a reform and some executive power. Fat chance of getting any, there isn't any political will, anywhere.

Arent the BNP racist but playing non-racist to gain support (something I find wholly more disturbing)?

You actually think that they would've been smart enought to grab so much support, if they would actually believe the rascist **** they're announcing (not the whole party, but the core of it)?

[Ted Striker]

USA CIA Boogie Man is responsible, etc

[Pekka]

Well, as war in Iraq was possible, I can't see no problems in assassinating Mugabe. That can't be too hard for us, and who would argue against it, raise their voices? Zimbabwe, or the rest of the Africa wouldn't be mad because of it. Sure, some other dictators like Mugabe might sweat, but who cares. It can't be question of the money, since killing him can't be that expensive.
Problem is, who willl take over after him, but I'm sure we have another retired general who could lead a country? ;D

[RGBVideo]

Zimbabwe, or the rest of the Africa wouldn't be mad because of it [assasinating Robert Mugabe]

Actually, AFAIK, Mugabe has rallied a lot of support with his anti-EU/US speeches. Don't underestimate the power of the stupid people.

Still, it seems that the more we wait, the worse the situation will get, so what are we waiting for? Let's deal with this problem - now.

Blah... idealist viewpoint, that was.

To gain maximum PR-support from this, forces with the necessary powers will probably wait until the situation gets as disastrous as it can get. Wouldn't surprise me a bit.