PBS lies in an attempt to prove that race does not exist

[notyoueither]

Why is there a problem acknowledging that there are genetic differences between members of different groups? They are extremely minor differences in all areas where it counts, but they are there none the less.

They can be significant medically though. Isn't it better to know what they are so that people can get better screening/treatment for potential problems?

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by GePap


You mean like skin color, as one of those types? You mean a trait that is mainly influenced by environment?

Yeah, all those black people just happened to get more sun than everyone else in their lifetime. Nothing to do with their parents being black.

If race trully existed, an isolated "white" population placed in a tropical climate should stay white. BUt hey won;t.

How strange that white South Africans still exist. I guess they just have really good sunblock.

just think how a group of black people from Africa ended up being every single human population outside of Africa, in only 100,000 yeras or less.

This is far from being proven fact. It's merely the latest guess at human origins.

[MRT144]

no no spiffor, it was a joke. if race is a socially constructed concept then i am in fact black and not white as my skin would lead to you to believe.

i fashion myself as "superfly tnt dolemite".

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Why is there a problem acknowledging that there are genetic differences between members of different groups?

Because then communists and socialists would have to admit that inequality is due to more than environment, which would completely undermine their whole ideology.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by MRT144
no no spiffor, it was a joke. if race is a socially constructed concept then i am in fact black and not white as my skin would lead to you to believe.

Yeah, I'm sick of these crackers trying to deny me my african-american heritage.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Yeah, all those black people just happened to get more sun than everyone else in their lifetime. Nothing to do with their parents being black.

And thier parents are black becuase? and their parent's parents. If you trully believe there is some sort of "sub-species" of man that just happens to be black, well, then you are trully hopelss.

How strange that white South Africans still exist. I guess they just have really good sunblock.

Hmm, i wonder how somoene can claim to be able to argue sucessfully about DNA and still miss the fact that 300 years is not a very significant span of time to bring about significant genetic variance.

This is far from being proven fact. It's merely the latest guess at human origins.

Actually, the "out of Africa" theory has far better evidence than any other theory of houman origin. But the fact you do not want to engae it tells me much about were you come from: and I feel no inclination to continue debating with such a person on this one topic.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Because then communists and socialists would have to admit that inequality is due to more than environment, which would completely undermine their whole ideology.

Isn't it more to do with opportunity, or lack thereof? Or is being black a feature of some impoverishing gene?

[Caligastia]

GePap you poor fool. Instead of trying to derail the original topic, why don't you try explaining why race deniers deliberately decieve in their attempts to prove their claims.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Because then communists and socialists would have to admit that inequality is due to more than environment, which would completely undermine their whole ideology.

Communism is the only ideology that promotes equality? I don't think so. It's only the right wing fanatics who demand that one race is superior.

[MRT144]

caligsta, we need to go burn some honkey lip crackers some time.

[ranskaldan]

If there isn't any race, why can't I pretend to be black?

[Tuberski]

I guess somebody should go and start the "abortion" and "Death penalty" threads.

Might as well have all the useless argument threads going at the same time.



ACK!

[MRT144]

Originally posted by ranskaldan
If there isn't any race, why can't I pretend to be black?

its the white man holding you down brotha

[GePap]

Originally posted by ranskaldan
If there isn't any race, why can't I pretend to be black?

God, what an annoyingly stupid argument!

Human populations slowly adapt to the environment. If a population stays in the same place for millenia, it will adapt to that area. But most changes are only skin deep. Deeper changes are answer to different microscopic environments, which in general are very closely tied to the general environment.

If what you mean by race are shallow and temporary (obviosuly not in the time span of individual, who are generally meaningless) characteristics designed to make you more successful in you current environment? Then yes, under this definition race exists. If you believe race to be anything more than this, well, then no, that type of race does not exist.

[Spiffor]

Abortion is good

Death Penalty sucks

Oh, and for the record : Gun Control rules