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  • #151
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    Yes, because Democrats would never do that ...
    Did you sleep through the Clinton years? You know... when the 1993 budget and economic policies led to record lows in unemployment? Or how about when the government showed surpluses for the first time in like 30 years?

    I'm not a big Democrat fan, they're simply the lesser-evils IMO. But the Clinton economic record, burst bubble aside, stands above and beyond 12 years of Reaganomics and the last two years of "Economics for Dummies".
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #152
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Our Republican leaders are definitely going to pass the bill on to us.


      Yes, because Democrats would never do that .... and they'll find a way to fix it before the boomers destroy it to... yeah right.
      Didnt FDR(d) come up with the idea of S.S in the first place?
      :-p

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      • #153
        Originally posted by Zero
        Didnt FDR(d) come up with the idea of S.S in the first place?
        The idea is sound as long as we have people in office commited to making it work.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #154
          Did you sleep through the Clinton years? You know... when the 1993 budget and economic policies led to record lows in unemployment? Or how about when the government showed surpluses for the first time in like 30 years?


          Did you sleep through history class? Explain Kennedy and Johnson as well as Carter to me again and their debts? One Democrat a changed policy does not make.

          But the Clinton economic record, burst bubble aside, stands above and beyond 12 years of Reaganomics


          Do you mean his policies or what happened when he was in office. Because for economic policies, I think Reagan's decisions were better for the economy than Clinton's... thankfully most of Clinton's ideas never got through (healthcare - which would have gone bankrupt in 2 years according to the CBO... Congress being in the hands of the Democrats then) or else we'd be having a recession a few years earlier.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #155
            The idea is sound as long as we have people in office commited to making it work.


            Not when you have a massive amount of baby boomers who are just about to retire, who will overwhelm the system. Look at MtG's posts on SS being a Ponzi scheme in the thread with the similar name.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #156
              Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
              Which is the most ridiculous statement you've made so far. 30 years of rape, torture, and murder is tolerable. A short term American occupation is not.
              Given that the US helped Hussein to power, and helped Hussein during the Iranian-Iraq War, how would you convince the Iraqis that, the US is kicking Hussein out for their own good?
              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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              • #157
                I'm disgusted by the fact that there are no weapons of mass distruction. The whole Bush administration disgusts me. Don't get me wrong, I'm still happy he has the balls to stand up to middle eastern nations. No more mr. nice guy for the U.S.

                But anyways, the intelligence failure is terrible. You would think the horrible intelligence would have improved after the intelligence failures after 9/11. But I guess not.

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                • #158
                  Try telling that to an Iraqi. As irrational as it may seem to you and me, it is a different culture, but an equally valid subjective to ours
                  How is culture in any way relevant to any of this? Saddam Hussein is not Arab or even Iraqi culture. He isn't even part of Arab or Iraqi culture. He is a figurehead, representing a political ideal, which some accept and some do not. If by removing Saddam Hussein, we were somehow violating or destroying Arab culture, then your argument might hold water. But that's not the case.

                  And, unless you subscribe to the philosophy that majority determines morality, to say that most Arabs prefer Saddam Hussein to the US, ergo he should be left in power, is a very basic fallacy.

                  And, to say that the US army rolled over the Republican Guard, ergo they could not suppress a popular uprising ignores several fundamental differences between the two.
                  "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                  "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                  "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                  • #159
                    "How is culture in any way relevant to any of this?"

                    I assume people in the administration think the same way. Welcome to the Iraq fiasco.
                    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                    • #160
                      I assume people in the administration think the same way. Welcome to the Iraq fiasco.
                      Care to explain why you feel the need to misconstrue what I said?
                      "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                      "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                      "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                      • #161
                        Originally posted by Dissident
                        I'm disgusted by the fact that there are no weapons of mass distruction.
                        I am disgusted too. This is one of the big sore points right now.
                        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                        (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                        • #162
                          Originally posted by Kirnwaffen


                          Care to explain why you feel the need to misconstrue what I said?
                          What misconstruction? Didn't you say the issue of culture is irrelevant for Iraqi attitudes towards US occupation? If not, what did you mean by "any of this"?
                          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                          • #163
                            I also wonder whether the next Bush war is against Saudi Arabia. Those gay "divorces" can be nasty.

                            “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                            • #164
                              Originally posted by HershOstropoler


                              So we can agree that the US is a Banana Republic. Well, that's settled.
                              Well what the hell is Austria's claim to fame?

                              Mozart, Hitler, a corrupt banking system and a bunch of silly clocks.
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #165
                                "a corrupt banking system and a bunch of silly clocks."



                                But no bananas, Gringo.
                                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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