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    Men's groups promoting hatred, federal report says

    A federally funded report says "masculinists" are orchestrating a backlash against feminism and blaming women for oppressing and discriminating against men.

    The report's authors claim that masculinists portray men as victims and link feminism with boys' poor performance in schools, male suicide, loss of male identity and discriminatory divorce and child custody laws.

    "A process of levelling the power relationships of men over women is taking hold, not only to mask continued inequality but also to attack some of the gains made by the women's movement," says the $75,000 report, School Success by Gender: A Catalyst for the Masculinist Discourse.

    The report says "masculinist discourse" aims to discredit feminism and challenge the gains made by women in education, at work and in family life.

    The report was written in response to a call from Status of Women Canada, a federal department, to research the subject: "Where have all the women gone? Changing shifts in policy discourses."

    A disclaimer on the front of the report says, "This document expresses the views of the author and does not necessarily represent the official policy of Status of Women Canada or the Government of Canada."

    Among the report's recommendations is that an organization similar to Hate Watch be established to monitor men's groups on the Web, that inciting hatred on the basis of gender should be a hate crime and that women's groups establish a network to counter the masculinists' views.

    Men's groups listed in an appendix to the report said they were outraged at being "smeared."

    Ken Wiebe, from British Columbia, said his Web site, fathers.bc.ca, was set up as a resource centre for fathers who have had trouble in the divorce courts. He denied it promotes hatred of women and said it demands equality.

    "There is no question that I have very little patience for feminists, especially the radical variety of feminism here in Canada," he said. "But I have a wife, I have daughters. This notion that because we are opposed to the feminists' political agenda, that that somehow equates to a dislike of women, is just propaganda. That's some kind of smear campaign."

    Mickey MacMillan, of Kamloops Parents of Broken Families, said he was angry at being put on the "hit list." "All I've ever done is advocate for equal parenting," said Mr. MacMillan, who represented Canada as a boxer in the 1962 Commonwealth Games.

    "I have no agenda against women. I don't like feminists because I think they're radical and I think they're against men, but I don't think they should try to criminalize me. And my government paying for it, it is a disgrace."

    Jim Hodgins, of the Canadian Committee for Fairness in Family Law in Ontario, which is on the report's list but does not have a Web site, said, "I think there is a serious need to look into why the government is funding this."

    In an interview with the National Post yesterday, the main author of the report, Pierrette Bouchard, a professor in the education department at Université Laval, said she was surprised at what she found on the Web sites.

    "At first, I thought, Well, these are just a few small fringe groups, it's not important. But eventually, I found that there were more of them than I thought and that they had a large network on the Internet, through which they are disseminating their views. That does bother me. It was very surprising.

    "In conducting this research, we found attacks on feminists on a lot of sites. We were only reflecting what we saw on their sites.

    "I have a feminist perspective, but just because I am a feminist, does not mean that I am incapable of seeing that boys are having certain difficulties. Nor do I put all men in the same basket. Not all men are like those I identified in the report."

    She defined masculinists as activists within certain men's groups. Ms. Bouchard and the report's two other authors, her research assistants, Isabelle Boily, and Marie-Claude Proulx, began by studying how "masculinists" used the media to portray the phenomenon of boys being less successful in school than girls.

    "However, circumstances led us to examine various masculinists discourses, of which school success or achievement is only one," it says.

    It notes articles in the media went from discussing girls' "triumphant breakthrough" in the 1990s to placing the emphasis on boys' "malaise." The authors blame the media for spreading the masculinists misinformation. They say men's groups view feminism as a movement to oppress and discriminate against men.

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    Well what do you all think about this?

  • #2
    No problem, as long as we can make feminism a hate crime.

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    • #3
      Yeah, good idea. We can all go to jail together!

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      • #4
        Well what do you all think about this?
        I think feminism is still an empowering movement. It's the wackos who claim all sex is really rape and such nonsense that discredit a legitimate and positive movement.
        "Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.

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        • #5
          I think it's telling that the report apparently says something to the effect that

          Among the report's recommendations is that an organization similar to Hate Watch be established to monitor men's groups on the Web, that inciting hatred on the basis of gender should be a hate crime and that women's groups establish a network to counter the masculinists' views.


          ...and that the author defends this by saying...

          "In conducting this research, we found attacks on feminists on a lot of sites."


          Does this mean that disliking radical feminism is equivalent to mysoginy?

          Bull****.
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          • #6
            Wait: they went to the net to find whacko's and they are shocked that they found some?

            Fools.

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            • #7
              I wonder whe the American political system will understand that lobbies and pressure groups sometimes are completely irrelevant and should be generally laughed at (and heftily fined if they waste the judiciary's time).

              That will be great.

              I hope these ultra-feminist cretins are discredited even more than they are now. I'm no friends with masculinism either, but I don't think either group should go to jail. However, both groups should chill and have some sex, it'll do them much good.
              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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              • #8
                Canadian political system, Spiff.

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #9
                  The report is from Canada Spiffor. We don't have those kind of nutty people down here...

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                  • #10
                    @ Lincoln.

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JohnT
                      No problem, as long as we can make feminism a hate crime.


                      I have been saying this for a long time here. Modern feminism is the KKK of our generation.
                      http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                      • #12
                        Monkspider agrees with me!!

                        :drops dead:

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JohnT
                          Monkspider agrees with me!!

                          :drops dead:


                          You shouldn't be so surprised actually. As a commie, besides finding much of it to be supremely hateful and bigoted, I find it to be very divisive and contrary to the goals of socialism.
                          http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                          • #14
                            He's dead, Jim.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #15
                              It's not THAT bad . Radical feminism is, but not everything is radical feminism .
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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