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    4 Men Jailed in China Accused of 'Subverting State Power'
    By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL


    BEIJING, May 29 — Four young friends who met on university campuses to discuss their progressive politics and posted occasional essays on the Internet were sentenced here to long prison terms on Wednesday, accused of "subverting state power."

    The Beijing Intermediate People's Court sentenced Xu Wei, 28, and Jin Haike, 26, to 10 years. Yang Zilin, 32, and Zhang Honghai, 29, received sentences of 8 years, according to human rights groups and relatives of the men.

    The case has long enraged human rights advocates, in part because the group's activities were so innocuous and in part because the four men have been imprisoned for over two years without a verdict in their trial.

    Calling the verdict "sickening," Mr. Yang's wife, Lu Kun, said in a telephone interview: "The all said they were innocent. They said that everything they said and wrote was within the limits of what is permitted by the Constitution."

    The four were first detained on March 13, 2001, just months after they had formed the "New Youth Study Group," a small coterie of like-minded friends who met occasionally outdoors at Beijing University to discuss political change in China, according to friends. The meetings involved well under a dozen people.

    While group members generally agreed that China needed a multiparty democracy, press freedom and free elections, their discussions and their Internet essays were about political theory. The group had no plans to actively foment change.

    Still, in China, such groups are supposed to be registered with the state.

    The verdicts amply illustrate that in this one-party Communist dictatorship, publicly raising the notion of alternative political systems still carries unpredictable risks.

    But many rights advocates and China scholars considered the harsh sentences curious, given that many of the liberal ideas expressed by the men in the "New Youth Study Group" are regularly published in academic journals here and are the fodder of discussions in university classrooms.

    "It is ridiculous that the Chinese government considers the peaceful expression of one's views a subversive act," Ann Cooper, the executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, said in a statement. "These four young writers have already wasted more than two years of their lives detained in legal limbo."

    Before their detentions Xu Wei was a reporter for The Consumer Daily, Jin Haike was a geologist, Yang Zili was a computer entrepreneur and Zhang Honghai was a freelance writer.

    The four were detained after another member of the group informed China's State Security Bureau about their activities. It is unclear why the verdict took nearly two years to decide, since the initial hearing took place in September 2001.

    While China's criminal procedure code stipulates time limits to prevent such extended detentions, these limits do not apply in cases where the police claim that breaches of state security are involved. Relatives of the men have not been able to visit them in prison, seeing them only at occasional courtroom hearings leading up to the trial, said Ms. Lu. She said the prosecutors had produced no new evidence since the initial hearing nearly two years ago.

    She also added that the four seemed to be in poor physical health, having lost weight while in jail. Xu Wei, who received a 10-year sentence, became very agitated in the courtroom, claiming he had been beaten and denied his right to see a lawyer.

    "He said he didn't plan to go on living and lunged at the trial stand," said Ms Lu. "About five or six police officers jumped on him and dragged him away."
    Why now? Right, the Olympics. Nearly forgot.

    Why so harsh?
    “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
    "Capitalism ho!"

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    Wonder what UR will say about this?
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    • #3
      I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I TELL YOU!

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        Wonder what UR will say about this?
        Whatever the "official" line is. Obviously he won't want to join them.
        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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        • #5
          China's government has always been a bunch of tugs and they will always be a bunch of thugs.

          At least they no longer execute or starve to death millions just because of their political beliefs. Great leap backwards is more like it...
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #6
            PRC
            "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

            "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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            • #7
              "While China's criminal procedure code stipulates time limits to prevent such extended detentions, these limits do not apply in cases where the police claim that breaches of state security are involved. "

              Hmmm, sounds familiar.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                IT HAPPENS IN THE US JUST AS OFTEN. ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE EVIL, WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR APACHE WAS SHOT DOWN BY A FARMER, HUH???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rah
                  "While China's criminal procedure code stipulates time limits to prevent such extended detentions, these limits do not apply in cases where the police claim that breaches of state security are involved. "

                  Hmmm, sounds familiar.
                  Except that when we claim that perogative here, Americans are free to protest.

                  Originally posted by Zylka
                  IT HAPPENS IN THE US JUST AS OFTEN. ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE EVIL, WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR APACHE WAS SHOT DOWN BY A FARMER, HUH???
                  What are you using ? No, what aren't you using ?

                  Calm down. And it obviously does NOT happen in the US "just as often", or even at all. We don't arrest people for political discussion.

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                  • #10
                    Ah, more easy prey

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                    • #11
                      Man! What a bunch of Commies
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
                        PRC
                        Predictably Repressive Communists?

                        And the foreign money continues to pour in. The PRC will pull almost whatever human rights **** it wants to pull for the simple reason that the lackey west will never stop slavering over Chinese markets and Chinese labor. That's where Mao and Lenin had it all wrong.
                        When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                        • #13
                          We should embargo them. Hey, maybe it didn't work in some cases, but they SURVIVE on exports.

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                          • #14
                            American business interests would never let the US government do such a thing.
                            When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                            • #15
                              Unfortunately so. But there could be economic benefits to it. It would open up a LOT of jobs here.

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