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  • #31
    Originally posted by Asher
    This is so stupid, ATI gets equivalent performance boosts by the same methods.

    All graphics cards makers do it, all have done it, and all will still do it. It only makes sense to optimize your drivers so the benchmarks are higher for you.

    I'm completely dumbfounded why the headlines say "Nvidia gets caught cheating", when ATi was "busted" as well (and even more dumbfounded that people are surprised??)
    Originally posted by Master Zen

    It's not that it's illegal or not, just that it is misleading the customer about the card's capabilities. It may be technically fair and square but it's just wrong. I would not have much faith or loyalty to a company which does that.
    The most relevant posts on this thread. All hardware benchmarks from manufacturers are kinked, rounded, and cannot be depended on.

    FAR better idea to get independent benchmarks from magazines and/or websites. HOWEVER, these are done with limited resources, and should not be considered as more than guidelines - generally more accurate than the manufacturer's but still not infallible.

    In the UK, direct advertising that compares your products to your competitors is BANNED. One consumer law I think a lot of countries should consider adopting.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Asher

      So you're not going to buy from ATI or Nvidia?

      Good luck with that.
      When did I say that? I'm not too fond of nVidia, after this little stunt much less. If both of them lie with their benchmarks so be it, I hate nVidia for not supporting the 3dfx cards after the sellout. To me that just goes to show how little they care about their customers.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Master Zen
        When did I say that? I'm not too fond of nVidia, after this little stunt much less. If both of them lie with their benchmarks so be it, I hate nVidia for not supporting the 3dfx cards after the sellout. To me that just goes to show how little they care about their customers.
        Because ATI does the same thing, and no doubt S3, Matrox, SiS, etc. also do the same thing.

        Don't you remember ATI getting "busted" for cheating a year or two ago? A simple replacement of "quake" with "quack" in their drivers drastically dropped performance. Why do you think that is?

        BTW, Nvidia didn't support the 3dfx cards because Nvidia doesn't have a tech support department and only required 3dfx's IP and engineers. They don't make boards, they don't support boards. All they do is design little chips and contract them out. Their customers are board manufacturers.
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        • #34
          ATI cards are utterly terrible. As for nVidia, I don't really care about what a company does during some stupid tests that don't have any bearing on whether or not I make a purchase. I like nVidia cards, specifically GeForce chipset, due to experience. I've tried both Voodoo and their GeForce equivalents. And for all the games I play, all the other applications I use, GeForce is the way to go.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #35
            Funny Sava you should say that. I provided tests that show ATI cards are far more better than Nvidia. The performance gap between each shows that ATI is obviously the better card out there. So you are full of nonsense.
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            • #36
              Fez: You provide no proof, You PROVIDE NOTHING! You want to destroy Nvidia... you criminal!

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              • #37
                ***hole. I provided the link a page ago.

                Now shut the **** up.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • #38
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                    When it's that easy, it takes some of the fun out of it, don't you think?

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                    • #40
                      I hate it when people plagiarize statements I have made. It pisses me off completely. Now get something original. Till then, shut the **** up.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #41
                        I love it when people plagiarize statements you make. It really pleases me. Please don't get anything more original. Till then, keep it up.
                        If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                        • #42
                          Imran

                          Sorry, Fez. I think you should take it in good humor. We're not laughing AT you, you know.
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
                            I love it when people plagiarize statements you make. It really pleases me. Please don't get anything more original. Till then, keep it up.
                            Then again, probably I should speak only for myself.
                            urgh.NSFW

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                            • #44
                              I'm not laughing at him either.
                              If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                              • #45
                                Ooooookay, whatever. nVidia rules, ATI sucks, good night, I want to get some sleep.
                                urgh.NSFW

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