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    Not the veil again!

    Here you will find an article about the veil thing again. When do these people get their ideas? As you will see (if you click on the link) in most muslim countries id pics are taken without the veil or women are not allowed to drive at all!

    So long...
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    If all those Moslem nations can require women to be unveiled for ID photos I don't see why we can't do the same.
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    • #3
      Just think if she was in Saudi Arabia she would be deemed genetically unfit to drive due to her lack of a Y chromosome.


      Last I heard driving was a privilage and not a right. Part of holding that privilage is having an officer be able to tell if you have a driver's licience or not. Refusing to allow yourself to be photographed prevents that from happening, ergo, she should get a bus pass or be driven around by her male relatives like they do in Saudi Arabia.
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        • #5
          Where in the Qu'ran does it say "cover thy self with a huge big heavy and uncomfortable looking black outfit"? From what I understand from Muslim friends and educational materials, it says to "dress modestly".

          I understand the (oh god my grasp of vocabulary is going to fail me now) Hajib? Is that the covering that covers the hair but leaves the face uncovered? But the burka (please please say that's what she's wearing in the photo) just looks extreme.
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          • #6
            They won't let me wear a hat in my photo, let alone a garment that covers my entire face. I have to say, anyone who wants to turn this into an issue of religious freedom is simply out of their mind.
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            • #7
              we want veal
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              • #8
                separtation of church and state... freedom of religion... conflicting issues, eh?
                Monkey!!!

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                • #9
                  It could be bin Ladin under there.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Japher
                    separtation of church and state... freedom of religion... conflicting issues, eh?
                    Not in this case if its true that Muslim countries that allow women to drive require the face to be visable for the license photo.
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                    • #11
                      true, they probably don't allow their women to drive... Man, wouldn't that be nice.
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                      • #12
                        she obviously lives in the 15th century. what does she need a car for?

                        j.k. of course.

                        wouldn't it be great if we all had a bar code on our arm and a microchip up our brown-eye? then we could cover our heads in whatever we want and no-one would whine about it
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                        • #13
                          Not in this case if its true that Muslim countries that allow women to drive require the face to be visable for the license photo.

                          Well, it seems that if what Starchild is saying is true (and from what little I know it is true), that what is required in those countries is based on societal norms rather than religious ones.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #14
                            The Pioneer: By the way, who's that boy in your avatar?
                            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                            • #15
                              its black and white. if you want a drivers license you need a photo ID. if you dont want a photo ID then you dont get a drivers license. end of story

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