Public education should get no more funding

[Al B. Sure!]

at least not on the elementary/high school level. money should go towards college. Why?

I've been in the philly public school system my whole life and though most the people i know are not going to college or they have already dropped out of high school, they are all universally intelligent. Take a random boy off the street hustling oils or some **** and you could seriously have an intelligent debate with him about politics or whatever. sure his grammer may not be right but he would use plenty of sophisticated words and knows what he's talking about.

So to me, funding is not the problem. The school district has basically churned out thousands of very intelligent men and women, even those who dropped out or stayed straight cutting classes. sure, some weedheads are retarded as **** and there's always those with 'learning disabilities' but the average student in the school district is probably just as smart as anyone in fancy private institutions.

the problem is that 1) there's little oppurtunity (what with the cost of college) out of high school to continue one's education, 2) people don't see the point in going to college (they figure they got enough knowledge to get a job and survive), and 3) people see college as that **** for white people.

but people insist that the public education system don't work because it don't get enough funding... **** that... the problem is people don't see the point in going to class, and especially not college.

We need to somehow convince people of the worth of a college education or at least the importance of a diploma if only as a sheet of paper that proves you actually know ****.

and thats the truth.


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[Shi Huangdi]

There are scholarships/loans available for bright yet less well off children.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Well then why not educate them better in high school?

The whole education system needs to be shaken up (but kept public)

[The Emperor Fabulous]

You don't realize what a highschool education gives you. Yeah, college is a place to expand your mind and learn worldly ideas, but how the **** are you gonna make it in there without knowing how to write a paper?

[Kidlicious]

Daaaamn!

[Zkribbler]

Re: Public education should get no more funding

Originally posted by Albert Speer
but people insist that the public education system don't work because it don't get enough funding...

Er... that's public education system doesn't work because it doesn't get enough funding

**** that... the problem is people don't see the point in going to class, and especially not college.

They'll change their minds after the get turned down for promotion because they lack the required education.

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Public education should get no more funding

Originally posted by Albert Speer
the problem is that 1) there's little oppurtunity (what with the cost of college) out of high school to continue one's education, 2) people don't see the point in going to college (they figure they got enough knowledge to get a job and survive), and 3) people see college as that **** for white people.

But why are those reasons against giving more funds to public schools?

Originally posted by Albert Speer
the problem is people don't see the point in going to class, and especially not college.

That is not a problem with funding the schools. That is a personal problem.

Originally posted by Albert Speer
We need to somehow convince people of the worth of a college education or at least the importance of a diploma if only as a sheet of paper that proves you actually know ****.

Show them the wanted ads. Check out the difference between a floor sweeper and an Oracle DBA.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Let me get this straight...

The objective is to get more people into colleges from poor areas?

Therefore there must be no funding to schools. Which means no teachers or books for those kids for most of their formative years.

It could work, but only if the US is ready for a B.A. in "See Spot run".

[Starchild]

To sum up:

"Based on my experiences in the place where I live, with no significant outside contact, I've found that the public school system produces many intelligent and thoughtful individuals. Therefore we must stop its funding."

[Al B. Sure!]

I didn't say we should stop its funding... i said we should not give public schools MORE funding...

Liberals always complain that schools don't got enough funding but the lack of funding is not the issue. With as little funding as public schools get, they still are very effective.


Urban:

But why are those reasons against giving more funds to public schools?

They AREN'T reasons against giving more funding! They're the reasons why the public school system seems bad on paper and why the percentage of public school students who go to college is so low... lack of funding is the not the problem! the problem is those reasons!

That is not a problem with funding the schools. That is a personal problem.

EXACTLY!


StarChild:

My experiences are in the supposedly worst school district in the entire United States... and i still say that almost everyone i know, many of whom didn't even graduate, are very intelligent individuals. They could easily do good in college except they see no point in going and it's expensive.


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[MichaeltheGreat]

Speer rant of the day:

I always look at the bright side, though: At least it's not a "My love life, part MCMLXXVI" thread.

[The diplomat]

What Public Education needs is dicipline, high standards and competition.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
I didn't say we should stop its funding... i said we should not give public schools MORE funding...

Perhaps if your school had been better-funded, you'd have been left capable of seeing that "Public Schools should get no more funding" is not the same as "Public Schools should not get increased funding".

Reassure me you aren't studying English.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
Liberals always complain that schools don't got enough funding but the lack of funding is not the issue. With as little funding as public schools get, they still are very effective.

So, by extrapolation, if more funding is given to public schools, they'd more efffective, thus sending more people to universities.

[David Floyd]

I think an interesting point to raise is that one of the highest funded school districts in the nation - that of Washington, DC - is also one of the lowest performing.

Something tells me that money has little to do with the performance of a school district, and that throwing more money at public education isn't the answer.