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  • Is there not political correctness in Civ 3?

    Now I know this will go against the times we live in but dont you admit that some of the civs that were included were done purely for PC reasons instead of what civs were actually more deserving than the other?

    I'm thinking the Iroquios and Zulu in particular.

    Can anyone sane argue that the Iroquois are MORE deserving than the Dutch or Portugese?

    Of course I see the necessity for non Euro civs like Hebrews, Indians, Chinese, Arabs, and so on. If you're worthy you should be in. Period. Doesn't matter if youre Euro or not.

    However that being said, if this game was solely going after which civilizations were most worthy, surely the Iroquois, Zula and some of the others would be out and the Dutch and Portugese in.

    So here's the question: In all honesty, don't you guys feel that SOME of the civs that were put in the game were done purely for PC reasons rather than historical importance??

    Look foward to intelligent responses. Thanks.

  • #2
    I played the first two civs and it makes sense on the world map to have Zulu and what not because if you had the Dutch instead then europe would be ridiculously crowded and Africa will be completely left open for the Egyptians and/or Carthaginians.

    The other thing to keep in mind is that the game starts in 4000 BC so the potential for just about any group to rise to greatness is quite significant.


    thanks
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    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • #3
      lets take out the greeks and replace them with the macedonians.
      "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
      'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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      • #4
        Dear captain DL!

        I like the Zulus. They're cool, and they are a great placeholder on the earthmap. I don't think that Hebrews should be one of the 16 civs, but if the amount of civs is increased to, say, 32-40, I think we should be in.


        Thanks in advance.

        ( If you're not a DL I am sorry, you'll find out what a DL is if your search the forum for 'DL'. also, read the FAQ. but Heck, what am I saying? You are a DL! )
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #5
          Not only were civs put in for political corectnes, a form of government - fanatism - was also removed for PC reasons, as admited by Firaxis.

          The game is as politicaly correct as they get, but still, some guy wrote a couple megabytes of an essay complaining that nomad/barbarian tribes are wrongly presented. Someone posted a link on Poly once.

          You can never please everyone.

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          • #6
            Im sorry Azazel......I cant get over that clever avatar of yours!

            So wise...... So wise!

            It makes anything you write look intelligent!

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            • #7
              Fanatism? whats that?
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #8
                Not only were civs put in for political corectnes, a form of government - fanatism - was also removed for PC reasons, as admited by Firaxis.
                So true.

                Political correctness =

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                • #9
                  sorry, fundamentalism. fanatic is the unit

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Obvious
                    Im sorry Azazel......I cant get over that clever avatar of yours!

                    So wise...... So wise!

                    It makes anything you write look intelligent!

                    Looks can often be decieving.
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #11
                      nah Zulus should be in there for gameplay reasons (filling up the otherwise empty Africa) as well as because of the fact that in 4000 BC, there was potential that they would have established a civilization...

                      i do find it messed up when political correctness destroys historical correctness... i played colonization or whatever it was called that was similiar to civ and there was no slaves... ridiculously unhistorical but they still had free convicts and indian converts though that made up for this that would potentially be harmful for gameplay.
                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #12
                        they got rid of fundamentalism in civ 3? why?

                        So people can only be Democratic or Communist in the later part of the game? What is supposed to represent Fascism?
                        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                        • #13
                          There are much better ideas for African civs. like the Ethiopians, and the Mali ( don't know jack about the latter, I must admit. )
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #14
                            In all fairness, I think there should also have been a Women civ. It would fit right in

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Azazel
                              If you're not a DL I am sorry
                              No need to be sorry... this is the same mr usa guy from yesterday.
                              Keep on Civin'
                              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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