Affirmative action: Reverse racism or concessions for past atrocities?

[Vesayen]

Whats your view on it?

[Hydey]

Reverse racism

[Az]

I am against it. It doesn't solve any problems, only creates them.

[Winston]

WHAT?! No poll??

Two threads a day and only one of them a poll. You're losing it Vesayen.

Oh, and reverse racism, yeah.

[Guynemer]

Neither.

It's an imperfect remedy for continuing racism and discrimination.

[Jac de Molay]

Using racism to remedy racism ultimately collapses like a house of cards. It's inconsistent and unsustainable.

There's a ****load of problems with the educational system, and the perilous state of youth in general, where I live. AA does nothing to remedy them .

[Zkribbler]

It's an attempt to remedy past racism.

I can't quite agree with Detroit Dave the AA does nothing to remedy school problems. But the more I look into it, the more I conclude that AA in schools also has avoidable negative impacts--such as the unintended message that minorities need AA in order to succeed in school. So I'm becoming a beliver in AA based upon financial status, not race.

Because racial diversity in the workplace is a desirable thing, I still support some AA there.

[Buck Birdseed]

Ah, the two Liberal viewpoints.

Nah, it's about the balancing of power between groups in society. Pretty straightforward way of making the groups that have relatively less power gain slightly more, and bring the groups that have too much power compared to their size down a peg or two.

[Az]

What groups? White people and Black people?

[Kirnwaffen]

Generally, a bad idea.

[Solly]

I think we need to have students expensively educated in another country brought down a peg or two.

[orange]

Reverse discrimination. The only legitimate 'affirmative action' in terms of admissions to college campuses should be based on class, not race, becuase class alone determines how easy or difficult it is for you to excel in life. Born into a rich family with good education and healthcare - your chances are good. Born into a poor inner city family with poor education and healthcare - your chances are bad. Race has nothing to do with it, as Black people can be rich poor or middle class, as can whites asians hispanics etc.

[Solly]

Why not treat people as individuals Orange?

There have been failures from rich families, and successes from poor ones.

[Dr Strangelove]

Practical compassion, unless carried too far.

[Buck Birdseed]

Originally posted by orange
Reverse discrimination. The only legitimate 'affirmative action' in terms of admissions to college campuses should be based on class, not race, becuase class alone determines how easy or difficult it is for you to excel in life. Born into a rich family with good education and healthcare - your chances are good. Born into a poor inner city family with poor education and healthcare - your chances are bad. Race has nothing to do with it, as Black people can be rich poor or middle class, as can whites asians hispanics etc.

Socialist bollocks. Why is it that Arabic doctors in sweden are forced to take jobs selling ****ing hot dogs while there's a huge demand for people with their skills in hospitals? Why are there no women cheif executives in the entire fortune 500? Why do working-class people hurl racist abuse at blacks, exclude them from their communities and treat them as less? Why is it still socially acceptable to hate homosexuals?

Ask anyone from the less powerful groups how they feel, get their perspective on things before dismissing their problems as by-products of the Capitalist system.