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Originally posted by HershOstropoler
From this side of the Atlantic, it looks like the Bushies have dropped any pretense of being an Ally.
From this side of the Atlantic, it looks like the Bushies have dropped any pretense of being an Ally.
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You sound like Richard Pearle.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Me in Germany?Originally posted by LoneWolf
The sel-righteousness of the American "extreme-right" has impacted you in Germany how, exactly? And we are dragging who, where?
It's mostly an annoyance, but it is causing some serious problems to western security. The US wants all kinds of things, from intelligence information to basing/overflight rights, to diplomatic and financial support etc. Unfortunately, Europe is not yet determined to deal with this on a strict quid pro quo.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Oh yes. And it was big buildings in Europe that went poof on 9/11. Is that it?Originally posted by HershOstropoler
From this side of the Atlantic, it looks like the Bushies have dropped any pretense of being an Ally.
But I'm actually not too unhappy about that development. Time to clear the air.
Let's face it, the touchy-feely diplomatic way isn't and wasn't getting the job done. Terrorism has never been worse and was not getting better.
Time to try another tack, but oh no, not for the French and some of the other Euros. There is never too much time for talk. We can talk and talk and talk until the next big building blows up, then maybe we'll do something, or maybe we'll talk some more...
Yes, time to clear the air. I agree.(\__/)
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It's all in my username.Originally posted by DinoDoc
You sound like Richard Pearle.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Like there's any real difference between Germany and Austria.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Me in Germany?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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That's because Europe couldn't hope to defend itself from rising threats unless it dismantled the welfare state. Don't wanna do that. Better keep cousin Sam around a while longer.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Me in Germany?
It's mostly an annoyance, but it is causing some serious problems to western security. The US wants all kinds of things, from intelligence information to basing/overflight rights, to diplomatic and financial support etc. Unfortunately, Europe is not yet determined to deal with this on a strict quid pro quo.(\__/)
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We are the last holdout of Bavarian independence.Originally posted by DinoDoc
Like there's any real difference between Germany and Austria.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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I know. I don't think you can the word 'Computer' in France publicly. 'Odinateur' is the term they have to use.Originally posted by Rothy
Lord Merciless, did you know they have a Minister of the Protection of the French language
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Cousin Sam can go home yesterday.Originally posted by notyoueither
That's because Europe couldn't hope to defend itself from rising threats unless it dismantled the welfare state. Don't wanna do that. Better keep cousin Sam around a while longer.
Rising threats like Saddam, sure. A third world country, sanction starved, that even a neighbour like Jordan doesn't see as a serious threat.
You know the difference between the US and the EU vis a vis Saddam's Iraq? The US militarily outspent it 200:1, the EU just 100:1.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Which has has what to do with America's illegal war of aggression against Iraq?Originally posted by notyoueither
Oh yes. And it was big buildings in Europe that went poof on 9/11. Is that it?
I can only assume that there is a feeling of treason in America - "the evil French etc don't support us in our war on terror".
Well, that feeling should be directed against Washington, a much better address for it.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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What's the difference vis-a-vis Russia?Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Cousin Sam can go home yesterday.
Rising threats like Saddam, sure. A third world country, sanction starved, that even a neighbour like Jordan doesn't see as a serious threat.
You know the difference between the US and the EU vis a vis Saddam's Iraq? The US militarily outspent it 200:1, the EU just 100:1.
I wonder how you measure defense spending in an Islamist state, like you have growing in several member states of the EU?
Europe's problem is not only that you practically begged the Yanks to not go home again, but that you still could not stand on your own if left to your own devices even to this day.(\__/)
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If you think Iraq was some misplaced step in what the Yanks have planned for OBL, I have a bridge to sell you in London.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Which has has what to do with America's illegal war of aggression against Iraq?
I can only assume that there is a feeling of treason in America - "the evil French etc don't support us in our war on terror".
Well, that feeling should be directed against Washington, a much better address for it.
Was it an obvious step in anti-terrorist efforts? No. However, it was not as if Saddam's hands were clean of the splatter from terrorism, and now... the Yanks are on the ground adjacent to SA, Iran, and Syria. The bases are being moved out of SA. Do you want to buy a clue?(\__/)
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"What's the difference vis-a-vis Russia?"
Maybe 20-30:1
"I wonder how you measure defense spending in an Islamist state, like you have growing in several member states of the EU?"
I have no idea what this is supposed to ask.
"but that you still could not stand on your own if left to your own devices even to this day"
Defense: instantly.
Intervention in Europe: a few years“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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"the Yanks are on the ground adjacent to SA, Iran, and Syria. The bases are being moved out of SA. Do you want to buy a clue?"
You're completely missing the issue.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Haa! Europe couldn't even sort out Bosnia on it's own.
BTW, you have a ways to go to even come close to catching up to Russia's long neglected military potential, and at the rate you guys spend, you are doomed to never finish.(\__/)
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