The non-sinful pleasures in life...

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


No I'm not. Children aren't sinful, they're potential. Quit picking on the kids, they can't choose the circumstances of their lives.

The children themselves aren't sinful, but children CAN be concieved in sin.

Example: Prositution producing a baby.

[Grandpa Troll]

I love fishing, but I AM NOT A FISHERMAN!!!

I just love a Johnboat a rod and some bobbers...a trolling motor and some fried chicken and sweet tea and my dollbaby wife..

now thats peaceful!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

[Narz]

Anything pleasurable is a good thing. If a person is truly happy he/she can only do good. All "sin" (which by my definition is an act harmful to the individual or those around him) comes from unhappiness, discomfort and fear. Stealing a car or solicting an underage prostitute may give you a rush but it's not pleasure.

- Narz

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Narz
Anything pleasurable is a good thing. If a person is truly happy he/she can only do good. All "sin" (which by my definition is an act harmful to the individual or those around him) comes from unhappiness, discomfort and fear. Stealing a car or solicting an underage prostitute may give you a rush but it's not pleasure.

- Narz

Thats not even close to being true Narz, as i did recieve some pleasure from Drugs and drinking. I slept with married women. I got pleasure. I am not boasting..just staing that sin can and often is pleasurable..like a wrapping paper around a "gift"..but once the wrapping is off..then you see what indeed you get yourself into.

If a Bank robber killsa an innocent person takes down 1/2 million dollars, uses drugs, coerces someone into the same mode of entertainment, they both recieve "pleasure"..then how can this be considered "Not Sinful"??


Peace

Grandpa Troll

[Shi Huangdi]

How the **** is alcohol a sin!?

heres to alcohol , from one sinner who has fallen short of the glory of God.

[Narz]

Originally posted by Troll
Thats not even close to being true Narz, as i did recieve some pleasure from Drugs and drinking. I slept with married women. I got pleasure. I am not boasting..just staing that sin can and often is pleasurable..like a wrapping paper around a "gift"..but once the wrapping is off..then you see what indeed you get yourself into.

If a Bank robber killsa an innocent person takes down 1/2 million dollars, uses drugs, coerces someone into the same mode of entertainment, they both recieve "pleasure"..then how can this be considered "Not Sinful"??


Peace

Grandpa Troll

Is this bank robber you speak of really happy or just trying to escape?

If you recieved so much pleasure from your "sinful ways", why did you stop?

[Narz]

To me, drugs & alcohol seem more about escaping pain (or reality which one might view as pain) than becoming fulfilled.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Narz

Is this bank robber you speak of really happy or just trying to escape?

If you recieved so much pleasure from your "sinful ways", why did you stop?

I stopped because Jesus Christ showed me the err of my ways...and yes I did recieve pleasure..sinful pleasure.

It was wrong then and wrong now.

I just didnt see it as wrong at the time...my bad


Peace

Grandpa Troll

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Narz
To me, drugs & alcohol seem more about escaping pain (or reality which one might view as pain) than becoming fulfilled.

I agree with you..but they bring a false sense of euphoria....

Sad but true...they are like the great Jet Airliners..get on get high get off...and miss the trip of life....


Peace

Grandpa Troll

[Zero]

childrens commit sinful behaviors and are more capable of doing so.

If anything, they are more primal in nature. And that leads them to do sinful deeds without having so called "higher concious" telling them not to.

[Zero]

As for children conceived with sins:

Christianity claims we are all conceived with sins. so everyone is a sinner as soon as they are born.

[Narz]

Originally posted by Zero
As for children conceived with sins:

Christianity claims we are all conceived with sins. so everyone is a sinner as soon as they are born.

Right, according to Christianity we are all sinners, we cannot be perfect no matter what, only Jesus was perfect. When we follow our natures we are sinful, when were are good it's only because of God that we can be good. Enough to drive one to drink!

Good thing I don't believe in that stuff.

[Q Classic]

mrt, where i'm from, the gooks that run the store are of that Korie breed.


btw, speer: i wasn't serious. i found it amusing, actually.
a lot of biting comments i make don't have the requisite wink...
which is why i got restricted once.

[MRT144]

excellent

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

If God didn't want us to sin, he wouldn't have made it so much fun.