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  • #31
    Originally posted by lord of the mark


    if by lefties the poster meant communists and other far leftists, he was in fact quite correct.

    If he meant liberals or social democrats he was of course wrong - but then it would be equally incorrect to indicate that all liberals in US or UK opposed Op. Iraqi Freedom.
    Most people don't make such distinctions... they just throw out terms without bothering to inform themselves
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      We would have had many trolls aimed at the commies about the genocide in the Ukraine abround this time.
      It would have been interesting to see the reactions as people discussed the Ukraine and then German atrocities started coming out. Wow, the far left and the far right trying to use the same arguments to defend themselves.
      "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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      • #33
        With the large proportion of weenies here?
        Yeah good point
        I'd have made an awful soldier and almost definatley had my head blown off, but especially a different environment to grow up in, I'm pretty sure I'd have gone...
        Stop Quoting Ben

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        • #34
          I think Stefu is correct: we would have ahuge number of pro-FDR and anti-FDr threads. Plenty of depression: 'hey buddy, can you spare a dime" sorts of discussions. Perhaps plenty of talk about Segregation, though no talk whatsoever about homosexuality.

          I don't think the German situation would be talked about much until 1935, when the Germans pull out of Versailles. Before that Mussolini and the Japanese would probably get a high proportion of talk, as would the Soviets and the mess in china (specially in the US). Palestine would be an issue, though I think most [posters would be in favor.

          As for what talk would be like about Hitler: Oerdin is wrong, i think. People like Che would be the ones callign for war aginst the facists in Spain. Remember that the whole "lessons form Munich" would not exist. I am sure plenty of people here who backed war in Iraq would, for example, back the Nationalists in Spain.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by GePap
            I think Stefu is correct: we would have ahuge number of pro-FDR and anti-FDr threads. Plenty of depression: 'hey buddy, can you spare a dime" sorts of discussions. Perhaps plenty of talk about Segregation, though no talk whatsoever about homosexuality.

            I don't think the German situation would be talked about much until 1935, when the Germans pull out of Versailles. Before that Mussolini and the Japanese would probably get a high proportion of talk, as would the Soviets and the mess in china (specially in the US). Palestine would be an issue, though I think most [posters would be in favor.

            As for what talk would be like about Hitler: Oerdin is wrong, i think. People like Che would be the ones callign for war aginst the facists in Spain. Remember that the whole "lessons form Munich" would not exist. I am sure plenty of people here who backed war in Iraq would, for example, back the Nationalists in Spain.
            Spain was during that period when the left had emerged from its focus on Western power as mainly a threat to the USSR, and before the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

            Che might well have been much tougher on the Fascists in Spain than most others here - I doubt however if he would have been calling for US-British rearmament - most of the UK labour party opposed rearmament. There really arent many heros in the West on either side of the ideological spectrum in that period - i daresay Winston Churchill was one of the few - why he was so isolated.
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #36
              Well my grandfather was around in that time. He served in the Spanish nationalist army. Chegitz, like all others communists have no place in our country especially not during that time. We took care of all the communists that entered our country to form an illegal combatant group called "the republicans". By defeating the communists we expressed our independence from Stalin and the USSR.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #37
                In 1933, we wouldn't have any black posters here.



                ACK!
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #38
                  We took care of all the communists that entered our country
                  Gotta love executions of POWs

                  to form an illegal combatant group called "the republicans".
                  Yes, strange how the democratically-elected government of Spain was formed by foreign leftists who entered the country months after it was elected.

                  By defeating the communists we expressed our independence from Stalin and the USSR.
                  The only reason the Soviets had any influence in Spain at all was because because of the nationalist uprising, the communist party was miniscule and unimportant before that.

                  The only people on the nationalist side worthy of any real respect are the Moroccans, damn tough bastards...
                  Stop Quoting Ben

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Boshko

                    Gotta love executions of POWs


                    Yes, strange how the democratically-elected government of Spain was formed by foreign leftists who entered the country months after it was elected.


                    The only reason the Soviets had any influence in Spain at all was because because of the nationalist uprising, the communist party was miniscule and unimportant before that.

                    The only people on the nationalist side worthy of any real respect are the Moroccans, damn tough bastards...

                    To be fair, while the communists may have been minor, the anarchists were not, and they were hardly democrats. And the last years of Republican Spain were hardly a model of pure democracy - this is not to justify the Francoist rebellion, but the Spanish situation was more of a tragedy than a simple case of black and white.
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #40
                      I am moroccan descended... Well a little nationalist uprising is healthy every now and then. The government before the civil war was incompetent. So we threw it out.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #41
                        In 1933, we wouldn't have any black posters here.
                        So just the situation same as now you mean?
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                        • #42
                          Hmmm...this is the first time I have seen race mentioned on poly.(Nationality quite often enough, but not race)

                          Does race matter to anyone here?? My hope is that poly is way beyond that.
                          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                          • #43
                            Once WWII broke out, Ming would allow one thread about it.
                            "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                            "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                            • #44
                              Hmmm...this is the first time I have seen race mentioned on poly
                              You must have me on ignore than.
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • #45
                                I wonder how Apolyton would look like, if it would have existed in 1933 already
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                                Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                                Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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