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  • #76
    disclaimer: this is on-topic Ming

    I have a question for people who dislike the UN. For the sake of argument, lets say the UN is done, finished, kaput! What now? Do we try to create yet another world organization? What do we do from here?
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #77
      Do we try to create yet another world organization? What do we do from here?
      Yeah.. try to create one that actually functions and put effort into it. And furthermore, don't let countries like France or Libya get power.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #78
        Don't you think that it should be Democratic? Shouldn't everyone have a voice?
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #79
          If a country like Libya has a voice in it.. what is the point? The country supports terrorism. And in the past, Muammar Qadafi was responsible for blowing up a plane and other terrorist activities. Certainly he has quieted down in the past decade, but still I wouldn't want his country the head of the security council of something.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #80
            By not allowing a country(s), you are effectively cutting off any diplomatic means to accomplish anything. I agree Libya shouldn't be on the Security Council, or human rights council (what a joke), but in America, even the Nazi party is allowed to participate in Democracy.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #81
              Oh yeah.. it was the one that was let into the human rights council.... now that is hilarious.

              I never proposed cutting Libya off completely... they can be let in with all of the other countries in diplomatic discussions... but not into any higher level part (like the security council) of the organization.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Fez
                I never proposed cutting Libya off completely... they can be let in with all of the other countries in diplomatic discussions... but not into any higher level part (like the security council) of the organization.
                How is that different than now?
                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                  How is that different than now?
                  They are on the Human Rights Council in the UN, IIRC.
                  To us, it is the BEAST.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                    How is that different than now?
                    Well it is different because Libya has a spot in the human rights council right now.

                    Also the organization must be efficient, and not in the current state of inefficiency the UN is now.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #85
                      The Human Rights council rotates, doesn't it? I mean, doesn't EVERY country get on it at some point?
                      Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                      • #86
                        When I was working at the European parliament, I wouldn't have hesitated to loot the bars if it was possible, like everybody else.

                        You can't imagine the horrendous prices this kind of bars serve
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #87
                          no coffee for Kofi
                          No comment...
                          Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Sava
                            By not allowing a country(s), you are effectively cutting off any diplomatic means to accomplish anything. I agree Libya shouldn't be on the Security Council, or human rights council (what a joke), but in America, even the Nazi party is allowed to participate in Democracy.
                            Quick question...how many countries participating in the current U.N. democracy are actually democracies?
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by The Mad Monk


                              Quick question...how many countries participating in the current U.N. democracy are actually democracies?
                              About a quarter to a third.

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                              • #90
                                Thanks, that's what I thought.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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