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  • #16
    Women should be allowed in the military, provided they meet the appropriate physical/psychological requirements. It has always pissed me off that certain groups (firefighters, for instance) have lower physical requirements for women. If the job requires an individual to be able to carry a 200 lb. person down 20 flights fo stairs, that standard should be applied to al candidates. Fewer women than men will be able to meet those standards, but that's life. Those people who can, regardless of sex, should be allowed to do the job.

    So, women should fight if they want, as long as they can perform the physical duties as well as men can. Hell, not all men qualify for many duties - no reason to cut off half the population from applying for the job just because significantly fewer will be able to do so.

    Gays should be alowed to fight too, though then there are other challenges to be met. Still, no reason to deny anyone with the ability and desire to defend their country from doing so.

    I concur - thumbs up to people who want to be in the military. Anyone willing to sacrifice their life to preserve their homeland and fellow citizens deserves respect.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
      Women should be allowed to serve in combat units IF they meet the same physical standards as men. Period. This has nothing to do with Jessica Lynch because she was not serving in a combat unit.
      I would agree. If they can lug the arms then great, but if not, can't slow the rest down or have someone underarmed, I mean less armed than others.But the other jobs in the military: pilots of all sorts, mechanics, medics, other jobs, I would think they could do just as well if not better than any man..

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      • #18
        women should not be in the military. period.
        actually I think men also shouldn´t be in the military.
        justice is might

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        • #19

          Oedo, what are you going to do after you dismantle your country's military?
          Wave bye-bye?
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SlowwHand

            Oedo, what are you going to do after you dismantle your country's military?
            Wave bye-bye?
            frankly I have no idea. but I promise you, if you ever plan to disarm my country you won´t get any trouble with me.

            seriously, I like the swiss idea of armed civilians. I don´t really know how it works but somehow it seems to work - in Switzerland at least.
            justice is might

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            • #21
              Switzerland is not what one would call representative.
              Think someone will take them over for their watch-makers ?
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kirnwaffen
                because she was not serving in a combat unit.
                Her fate proves that all units are combat units. They just have more or less training for combat.
                So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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                • #23
                  right, even hitler didn´t try to attack our swiss cheese-friends. the only empire I know about trying to attack switzerland have been the romans. it was a complete desaster. conquering Helvetica wasn´t that much of a problem. however the swiss scattered salt all over their land before they fled, in order to make it useless for the romans. they finally succeeded with their "strategy".
                  justice is might

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                  • #24
                    Her fate proves that all units are combat units. They just have more or less training for combat.
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                    • #25
                      She sure as hell fought hard before they took her too.

                      The report says she kept firing until she ran out of ammo.
                      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                      • #26
                        I'm voting bare foot and pregnant just to piss off the feminazis.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          Anyone who doesn't have a physical or mental disability and wants to serve in the Armed Forces should be allowed to do so . . . unless there's a valid security reason to keep them out. I shoulda been allowed to serve!
                          if you dont mind me askigng, why couldn't you?
                          "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
                          - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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                          • #28
                            There are alot of old Roman stories about Celtic women racing into battle and kicking ass.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by UberKruX
                              if you dont mind me askigng, why couldn't you?
                              IIRC, he was kicked out for medical reasons before he could start basic training. I think it is one of the reasons he went red.
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                              • #30
                                the only empire I know about trying to attack switzerland have been the romans. it was a complete desaster.

                                Don't forget about the Burgundians and the Austrians. They failed miserably.

                                OTOH, the French kicked some serious Swiss ass under Napoleon.
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