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    Brits seek missing WIMPs of universe

    LONDON (Reuters) --British scientists equipped with state-of-the-art detectors deep underground in northern England have begun a search for one of the most tantalizing secrets of the universe -- Dark Matter.

    "If we are successful in our quest then we are looking at a place in the history books," Neil Spooner of Sheffield University said Tuesday. "This will be one of the great discoveries of our time."

    Scientists around the world are racing to be the first to discover the truth about Dark Matter, which cannot be seen because it does not emit light. They believe it makes up the vast majority of the universe.

    Scientists say stars account for less than 1 percent of the mass of the universe, with gas clouds and other objects accounting for close to another 5 percent.

    No one is quite sure what makes up the missing remainder, which has been dubbed Dark Matter.

    In a bid to identify the prime suspect known as Weakly Interacting Massive Particles or WIMPs, British scientists have installed detectors 3,600 feet down a salt mine at Boulby on the North Yorkshire moors.

    They are buried deep underground in an area of low natural radioactivity where intervening rock should shield them from interference and filter out cosmic bombardment.

    "This is an outstanding research facility equipped with some of the world's most sensitive Dark Matter detectors," Ian Halliday, chief executive of the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council, said in a statement.

    "It is a crucial addition to the UK's resources in a research field where British scientists are playing a world-leading role -- the race by physicists around the globe to discover these exotic, as yet undetected, Dark Matter particles," he added.

    The theory is that although billions of sub-atomic particles called WIMPs are passing through the atmosphere and the Earth every second they only rarely encounter the nucleus of an atom, making it shudder slightly.

    The detectors are designed to be able to detect these tiny collisions that are so rare that scientists calculate that in a 2.2-pound block of material, less than one WIMP a day will strike the nucleus of an atom and make it move.

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    Interesting. Thoughts? I have a question for smarter 'Poly members. If the universe is infinite, how can scientists say that stars are 1% of the universe? Isn't that an infinite number as well? Or are they talking about proportions within our detectable range?
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    Is the universe infinite ? I thought it was expanding, hence finite
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    • #3
      If it constantly expands, how is it finite?
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        I am sorry, but I am a strong believer in MACHOs. I haven't seen substancial proof for WIMPs.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #5
          I've always been taught it is infinite.
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #6
            It may be infinite, but the causal universe, the parts of the universe which we can have any cause and effect from and so for all intents and purposes is the size of the universe, is 14 billion light years.
            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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            • #7
              It is, even by Spiffor's definition.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                erm, if it would be infinite, I don't think that they would be looking for WIMPs or MACHOs in the first place. both of these were hypotheses drawn to explain gravitational forces that were much stronger than the visible bodies would suggest.


                Hmmm. Dark Matter.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #9
                  I suggest you all read up on Olber's paradox.
                  One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                  • #10
                    Okay, once we find out that "WIMP's" exist; what then?
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #11
                      Olber's Paradox is, at best, a theory.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #12
                        Re: Brits seek missing WIMPs of universe

                        Originally posted by Sava
                        If the universe is infinite, how can scientists say that stars are 1% of the universe?
                        You can look at gravitational effects in the bit of the universe we can see. Since we think we understand gravity (at large distances) pretty well, this predicts that there is a lot more 'stuff' in the universe. In other words, gravity looks to strong - this would be explained by there being lots of non-luminous matter.

                        Originally posted by Spiffor
                        Is the universe infinite ? I thought it was expanding, hence finite
                        Something that is infinite can still expand. Imagine having an infinite rubber sheet with a chequer pattern drawn on it. If the sheet 'expands' the squares will get bigger.

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                        • #13
                          But, RJ, The amount of matter is finite, right? ( That's what I meant what I said 'universe' in my previous post. )
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #14
                            If the universe started with the Big Bang a finite amount of time ago, how could it be infinite in size, unless it at least expanded for part of the time at an infinite speed?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Azazel
                              But, RJ, The amount of matter is finite, right? ( That's what I meant what I said 'universe' in my previous post. )
                              You will start to get into metaphysical difficulties here. As BC said, the amount of matter that we can see is finite (14 billion years worth) so in a way the universe if finite (if you can't see it it isn't there!). But presumably someone on Alpha Centauri would see beyond our horizon (in certain directions), therefore seeing more 'stuff', so in that sense, it is infinite.

                              Also note that the universe being infinite and the amount of matter being infinite are not the same thing.

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