Chess Problem

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Think I figured it out. Hopefully this method of hiding the solution works....

[HolyWarrior]

chess

Of course, no one is ever going to make those moves in an actual game...

[monolith94]

spoilsport! I once beat a kid with I believe it's called 'the fool's gambit' - the one where you win in 3 or four moves. It was fun.

[Aro]

IIRC, the moves have to be forced, in a chess puzzle. I mean, the result can't be avoided. But this isn't a real puzzle, is it?

[Alinestra Covelia]

There was a game I played in high school once where I'd lost my queen and bishops and the enemy had even promoted an extra queen.

Without him noticing, I pushed a pawn all the way to the end and mated his entrenched king literally one move away from mate myself.

[Jon Miller]

the 4 move mate (With the queena nd bishop) is called a scholars mate I beleive

it can be stoped anywhere along the way (most easiliy by the move of a pawn

Jon Miller

[monolith94]

Alinestra - that sounds like something I'd do!!!
there was this one kid I'd play on the network at school against, and he would ALWAYS nab my queen within the first few moves - but I'd end up always winning. It was great!

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by Aro
IIRC, the moves have to be forced, in a chess puzzle. I mean, the result can't be avoided. But this isn't a real puzzle, is it?

It's not a puzzle in the sense that moves have to be forced, no. It would be pretty hard to force a mate from 1. e4.......if it wasn't, I think chess would have gone out of style long ago.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Aro
IIRC, the moves have to be forced, in a chess puzzle. I mean, the result can't be avoided. But this isn't a real puzzle, is it?

its a different type of puzzle called a helpmate-- you look to see if you can achieve the result if both sides are actively seeking it

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
the 4 move mate (With the queena nd bishop) is called a scholars mate I beleive

it can be stoped anywhere along the way (most easiliy by the move of a pawn

Jon Miller

Yes the four mover is called sholars mate and it is the first thing you teach kids to avoid. It is very easy to stop and the early movement of the queen prior to developing other pieces, makes her a target.

The two move mate only occurrs through stupidity -- White plays pawns to f3 (or f4) and g4-- Black plays e6 or e5 followed by Qh4 checkmate

1. f3 e6 2. g4 Qh4 ++