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  • #31
    you mean a murder of a politician? thats an assasination...
    great I'm getting better on english... actually a was doubtful on that word 'cause it was "assasination" so I thought that my subconscious mind made me mistake it.
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    • #32
      it's a valid word. even funnier, it's spelled:
      assass•ination.

      from oed, the etymology:
      a. F. assassin, or ad. It. assassino: cf. also Pr. assassin, Pg. assassino, Sp. asesino, med.L. assassnus (OF. forms were assacin, asescin, asisim, hasisin, hassissin, haussasin, etc.; med.L. (pl.) assessini, ascisini, etc.), ad. Arab. ashshshn and ashshiyyn, pl. of ashshsh and ashshiyy, lit. ‘a hashish-eater, one addicted to hashish,’ both forms being applied in Arabic to the Ismli sectarians, who used to intoxicate themselves with hashish or hemp, when preparing to dispatch some king or public man. The OF. variants, (pl.) assacis, hassisis, haississis, med.L. assasi, haussasi, med.Gr. , point to the Arabic singular, but the form finally established in the European languages arises from the Arab. plural, as in Bedouin; cf. also It. cherubino, serafino, F. and earlier Eng. cherubin, seraphin (sing.). Naturally the plural was first in use, in the historical sense, and occurred in Eng. in the Lat. or It. form before assassin was naturalized: the latter was still accented assassin by Oldham in 1679.
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      • #33
        war is bad. mmmkay

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        • #34
          anyway, yes, albert, it was good that the voice of the minority did not triumph over the voice of the majority.

          i honestly believe, however, that the voice of the undecided or the voice of the disinterested (on this particular matter) comprised a far larger group than we're given credit for. so long as the tyranny of the majority is avoided, this entire government thing seems to be working fine.
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          • #35
            There are some interesting points in this thread.

            First of all the minority still believe they are the majority.

            And secodn the minority that does not believe this says the majority are ill-informed and not smart enough to have an opinion- therefore they don't count.

            I am pleased by the outcome for several reasons. For far too long the minority groups have been dictating public policy. It was nice to see the majority get some respect for a change.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dissident
              There are some interesting points in this thread.

              First of all the minority still believe they are the majority.

              And secodn the minority that does not believe this says the majority are ill-informed and not smart enough to have an opinion- therefore they don't count.

              I am pleased by the outcome for several reasons. For far too long the minority groups have been dictating public policy. It was nice to see the majority get some respect for a change.
              Very well said Dissident.

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              • #37
                How does that leave Britain's position? For some time in the build-up to the war it looked like the anti-war opinions were the majority.
                The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  they just mentioned him on an SNL from the late 80's! who was he?


                  IIRC, he was head of KGB in the 80s.
                  I'm not so sure about that... He was foreign minister of the USSR though.
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                  • #39
                    Re: I'm damn glad the protestors were ignored...

                    Originally posted by Albert Speer
                    72% of americans were in favour of the war...
                    Probably the same 72% of Americans who couldn't find Iraq on a map.
                    Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                    Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Frozzy
                      I think that's bull****. I've always been for the war, I don't think it was wrong. It got rid of a ruthless dictator who murdered and tortured his own people. Please explain why we shouldn't have freed a country of an evil despot?
                      It is wrong because a country holds no jurisdiction over another country. The only body has this power is the UN.
                      (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                      (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                      (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                      • #41
                        AH, you're thinking of those ignorantass Aussies.

                        No wait. That's you. Never mind.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Dissident
                          And secodn the minority that does not believe this says the majority are ill-informed and not smart enough to have an opinion- therefore they don't count.q
                          Funny enough, this is exactly what the pro-war camp had been touting wrt to the anti-war movement. You cannot have it both ways.

                          Originally posted by Dissident
                          I am pleased by the outcome for several reasons. For far too long the minority groups have been dictating public policy. It was nice to see the majority get some respect for a change.
                          What makes you think that it has been changed? First of all, support of this invasion went up after it had started, polls on the war right before it started ran extremely close. Secondly, where are all those NBC weapons?
                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                          • #43
                            Protestors should have been, and REALLY should be now, embarrased.

                            They were wrong, and should be big enough to just admit it.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #44
                              Not at all. I still oppose the war.
                              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                              • #45
                                Same here. The military success doesn't mean the 'war' has ended (I mean, the military operations and their consequences). I might change my mind in 10 years, if Iraq has become an happier place by then, and if the hatred from the Arab world towards the US and the west has abated.

                                I admit I am relieved by the limited losses in the battle of Baghdad though
                                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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