I'm damn glad the protestors were ignored...

[Giancarlo]

I always bring up a point to the crazy, wrong and loud peacenik protester: "You have a right to protest, you always had this right. You have the right to speak your voice.. but let me ask you... Did the people under Saddam Hussein have this right?"

That leaves a lot of stunned faces in anti-war people in my school. I also say I don't love war, but with Hussein it was unavoidable.

[SlowwHand]

And AH and Spiffor illustrate to perfection the ignorance in the minds of the protestors.

There were beau coup reasons, and all are rejected as "unfair".

Laughable, if it weren't so sad.

[Spiffor]

I admit you are an expert when it comes to diagnosing ignorance Sloww.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Fez
I always bring up a point to the crazy, wrong and loud peacenik protester: "You have a right to protest, you always had this right. You have the right to speak your voice.. but let me ask you... Did the people under Saddam Hussein have this right?"

That leaves a lot of stunned faces in anti-war people in my school. I also say I don't love war, but with Hussein it was unavoidable.

I believe Iraqis are protesting in Baghdad at the moment...?

Why was war with Hussien unavoidable? there are plenty of other dictators with poor human rights records that the US HAS managed to avoid war with.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
And AH and Spiffor illustrate to perfection the ignorance in the minds of the protestors.

There were beau coup reasons, and all are rejected as "unfair".

Laughable, if it weren't so sad.

When you understand the concept of just casus belli, let's talk again.

[SlowwHand]

When you understand Hussein didn't do a damn thing he's been supposed to for 12 years, murdered 1000's following the Gulf War, and on and on; let's talk again.


In other words, I don't expect to hear a peep from you.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
When you understand Hussein didn't do a damn thing he's been supposed to for 12 years, murdered 1000's following the Gulf War, and on and on; let's talk again.


In other words, I don't expect to hear a peep from you.

You mean like countless other US supported dictatorships around the world?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
There were beau coup reasons, and all are rejected as "unfair".

Not rejected. Refuted.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

they just mentioned him on an SNL from the late 80's! who was he?

IIRC, he was head of KGB in the 80s. He is the President of Georgia now, as CP said.

He was Foreign Minister of the USSR.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Protestors should have been, and REALLY should be now, embarrased.

They were wrong, and should be big enough to just admit it.

Why should we be embarressed? Few of our reasons for opposing the war have been disproven, and none of my reasons were disproven. On the other hand, some of our warnings about what would happened are coming true.

Of course, those who supported the war from the begining have had to change their reasons for supporting the war. Since they haven't managed to find WMDs yet (with the caveat that they've found some pretty strong evidence in the last couple of days which still remain to be tested), and there's no evidence that Iraq was giving active support to anti-American terrorists, they now say, "See the smiling people," while ignoring the mounting protests, the surge in power of the Iraqi Ayatollahs, the mass looting and destruction of Iraq, and the Iraqi dead and wounded.

We weren't wrong just because you won. Might doesn't make right.

Speer, the majority of people were opposed to the war from the begining, and it was only when it became clear that war was inevitable because of our bellicose President that the numbers began to change.

[Sava]

Revolutions usually succeed when the warning signs are ignored.

[Sava]

So far, I don't think any of the anti-war reasons have been disproven. And I don't think any of the anti-war people thought the war wouldn't succeed (at least those of us not wearing aluminum hats). It's the "peace" that I'm worried about. Sure, I might mock the results of the war, but I'm fearful of them. Iraq is turning into an Islamist state. And that's worse than Saddam. Saddam just wanted his own little country. He wanted to build palaces and surround himself with beautiful things. He was predictable. And he didn't want to sacrifice his life for his beliefs. But Islamic fundamentalists want America, Israel, and anyone else who isn't Muslim, dead. And they don't mind blowing themselves up to get their way. And frankly, any course of action that puts them in control, or gives them more opprotunity or more rhetoric to recruit people is bad. It's a shame that America hasn't learned anything from 9-11.

[SlowwHand]

Of course you don't.
One has to pay SOME attention, at least.

[chequita guevara]

What do you call Republicans who pay attention? Democrats!

[Sava]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
What do you call Republicans who pay attention? Democrats!

Actually, there are two kinds of Republicans. The ones that pay attention and are informed are the ones benefitting from the immoral policies. And then everyone else who is fooled into thinking the policies are good.