New Sheepsta publicly announces that the war of LIBERATION has begun.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Archaic
As I recall, that jungle took a while to regrow, correct? Plus Vietnam never suffered the Nukes. Things grow back, but not that quickly. All this has happened in the space of less than a year RPG wise by the way I'm measuring things. Now if it was 5-10 years, then I'd concede the point.

A year is a day in RL. Thus it is rather more than even 5-10 years. This was stated by violet IIRC, and is also worked out looking at population (1-10% per year)

[GeneralTacticus]

A year is a day in RL. Thus it is rather more than even 5-10 years. This was stated by violet IIRC, and is also worked out looking at population (1-10% per year)

Like I said, it's taken decades for the jungle to regrow, and that's been in a state of relative peace and stability.

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Drogue

A year is a day in RL. Thus it is rather more than even 5-10 years. This was stated by violet IIRC, and is also worked out looking at population (1-10% per year)

I don't think we can use that here however. There's no way this situation would've dragged on for decades. 1 day RL = 1 week to 1 month IG would work IMO.

[Drogue]

well... It depends how much was destroyed. If more then 30m% was I would be surprised, and after ~10 years, I would guess at least 10% has grown back, thus it is missing ~20%. Of course, this is just a guesstimate, but it is justifyable that there is much jungle left IMHO.

[Sheep]

No Sheepsta island is rightfully mine and I want it back

[Drogue]

Originally posted by Archaic
I don't think we can use that here however. There's no way this situation would've dragged on for decades.

Possibly. Possibly not. Remember, in this time, you've created and grown your country, it takes decades for a nation to develop, and decades for courts to decide on action, with appeals, etc.

Originally posted by Archaic
1 day RL = 1 week to 1 month IG would work IMO.

I would think this much to short personally.

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Drogue
Archaic has a point, but as Sheep said, he was stil contactable. I think a PM would have solved a lot of this. However, can a compromise be reached.

Maybe so, but I figured that he had no interest in Nationstates anymore anyway, which under the circumstances was certainly a reasonable assumption.

Originally posted by Drogue
Possibly. Possibly not. Remember, in this time, you've created and grown your country, it takes decades for a nation to develop, and decades for courts to decide on action, with appeals, etc.

Perhaps. Though I think with timespans that long there would have had to be military action before now.

Originally posted by Drogue
I would think this much to short personally.

Hmmmm......perhaps you're right. 1-3 months maybe?

[Sheep]

Originally posted by Archaic


Maybe so, but I figured that he had no interest in Nationstates anymore anyway, which under the circumstances was certainly a reasonable assumption.

Then admit your mistake and give it back to me!

[Archaic]

Originally posted by Sheep
Then admit your mistake and give it back to me!

No. I made no mistake in not contacting you. You had, for all intents and purposes, abandoned your nation. Now stop being such a petulant child already and admit THAT.

[Sheep]

Originally posted by Archaic


No. I made no mistake in not contacting you. You had, for all intents and purposes, abandoned your nation. Now stop being such a petulant child already and admit THAT.

I admit that I was sick, and with limited time I had to make piroities. Howevr I also confess to being online and contactable. You made a mistake in not asking, Taking without asking is called stealing in every culture I can name! As for being a petulant child, I wonder indeed if you have ever grown up yourself? I have hell I have a life off this computer, geez my girlfriend too was a piortiy over this, was that wrong? I don;t think so!. However I do not feel I need to suffer at the hands of a moronic stuck up good for nothing player that wishes only to spite me because I decided to make life intresting beforehand.

Hell lets see how do you like this.

ALECRAST GOVERNMENT HAS DISSAPERED< NEW SHEEPSTA SAYS IT IS GOING TO ANNEX 'PEACEFULLY' AND THEN OCCUPY IT THEN MAKE IT A PUPPET STATE< THEN OCCUPY IT AGAIN UNTIL EVERYONE FORGETS WHY I AM HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND JUST AGREES WITH ME!

HELL WHAT A GOOD IDEA!

[Archaic]

Don't you just love it how Sheep assumes I'm out to get him, and that just because he's taken it all personally, that I must be too?

Sheep, you aren't answering my question. Stop dodging it already. Kindly inform us all how, no matter how much limited time you had, that you could make all those posts in diplomacy and not visit the nationstates site just ONCE to maintain your nation.

As for calling you a petulant child, stand back for one second and take a look at how you're acting. Getting pissy at me because you screwed up isn't going to change anything.

IMO, you had ABANDONED your nation. That means you surrendered your rights to it. The nation ceased to exist for practical purposes, so I used it to do my roleplay. ANY nation in the region could've done that. I only picked Sheepsta because it was the closest empty nation in the region. If GT had gone for a month in the way you had, I would've done it with Centralis. Same with Karakas, or any of the other close nations. YOU were the one who abandoned your nation, so stop trying to pin the blame on everyone else.

Oh, and BTW....

ALECRAST GOVERNMENT HAS DISSAPERED< NEW SHEEPSTA SAYS IT IS GOING TO ANNEX 'PEACEFULLY' AND THEN OCCUPY IT THEN MAKE IT A PUPPET STATE< THEN OCCUPY IT AGAIN UNTIL EVERYONE FORGETS WHY I AM HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND JUST AGREES WITH ME!

1) If I had been away from my nation for so long without an explanation, while posting actively in other forums, I would ADMIT that I had surrendered my rights to the nation during that time. If something happened RPG wise with it during that time, while I might not like the results, I would accept them, and start anew.

2) Have you paid no notice at all to what was happening earlier? The mistake in the terminology was already clarified. North and South Sheepsta are protectorates with their own semi-independant governments, which have been partially integrated with the governments of the nations protecting them. They were NEVER occupied, and NEVER annexed.

3) The only person who seems to constantly forget everything that's happened and has been established is you. You're quite free to read the topics. It's not my problem if you refuse to keep yourself up to date, and ignore everything that you don't like.

[Sheep]

Because diplomacy is where I come from and I owe allegiance to my roots, therefore it had a higher piority. I only had30 minutes a day while I was in hopstial to post, sometimes less, so a trip to the slow server that nation states was at the time was not feasible.

Happy now?

[Archaic]

No. Because the nationstates server was hardly slow during that period (It got quite quick BEFORE you left as I recall), and there is no reason you couldn't have either
a) Opened up a second browser window
b) Posted at least once in the NS forum
c) Got someone else to mind your nation.

In other words....

Not. Our. Fault. That. You. Were. Lazy.

[Sheep]

Whatever I am not going to argue with you over this, because it seems as though I am talkig to a wall that will never care whaty the OWNER thinks.

Just think about this, If the owner of a car leaves on the side of the road for a month, and it isn't there when he comes back, the person who took it stole the car. Why is this any diffrent? However if the person asked the car's owner if he could use it, and the owner said yes, there would be no problem.

See whatever else you say this cold of been solver by a simple PM on your behalf. So before you go calling me LAZY sonsider this, why didn;t you ask in the first place?

Now lets wait until the courts decide what the outcome should be

[Archaic]

That's a very different scenario. You don't cease to be the owner of a car like that. However, you DID cease to be the owner of Sheepsta when you let your account be deleted because you were negligent. It is a VERY different thing. Think of it more like having your child taken away by Social Services because you were a bad parent. Afterall, to borrow from your attempt at an analogy, you left your child out to die in the wilderness.

Let's wait until the courts decide indeed.