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Here's a good starting place for people with little or no knowledge of military structure:
Anybody else with sources should post them.
Anybody else with sources should post them.
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its getting pretty naff reviews and id hoped it would be a decent filmLearn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.Comment
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Troy was better than decent... they stripped it of all those gods running around, and it turned into a pretty good epic about the futility of war, honour and religion. It was fun to watch, too.
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Unless im missing something then it is definately not possible to support a large army by "flying" all food/ammo/medicinal supplies etc via choppers over an ocean to Azan right ? Or by having a personal navy for each small ship would mean having a navy the combined size of every other player present ?Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.Comment
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This is from this btw :
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Originally posted by Lazerus
Ras are you seriously telling me every weapon you fire at me in that city is "presicion guided missile", your country would be bankrupt by now.
No not broke, we have a large bankroll for this kind of thing... But no not all were precision jus tthe ones used over Azan taerritory, all bombs dropped on FCL were regualr bombs.quote:
and yes i am cutting your supply lines, a far easier task then your massive bombing raids
actually no not easier as i dont use merchant ships for supplies, most are flown in via Hercules helicopters or on Naval Ships with full naval suport, we also hav emuch supply from other nations, we are buying supplys on the open market and having them shipped in using their shipping as you obviously only targeting my ships. Thesupplies are shipped into Azan territory then flown into the city .quote:
which i did acknowledge and you keep posting about despite the fact i still consider you wouldnt have more then several hundred aircraft in the area. Now alot less if you've taken "heavy" losses
no i have large squadrons in area, the war we conducted on azan was only a prep for what was to come, we knew once we arrived wither we would face a world coalition or as we ended up doing , facing a evil empire. So the numbers of plane sin area which was built up during the offencive in azan is very large. Additional y we hav ebases in Western apolyton .
Being a small island nation we always ahv ehad many Aircraft carriers as we dont have room on our island for 1.2 Bill people and airports too.
So nealry al lof our Airforce is Located on aircraft carriers.
Now back to you acknowleging my attacks , you havent , not one report on any losses or such. Since you obviously didnt take any losses, none of my ships are sunk either.
Youi will notice when i conduct Dogfights that i post both sides lose planes, althoguh the losses are higher on your side as I am jsut too good !! (just kididng)Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.Comment
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thanks for moving it to this thread, Laz
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1) Ras your country is not rich enough to have every weapon targeted at me inside Azan precision guided, i spend best part of my income on military, twice your budget atleast, and i am certain i wouldnt even come close.
2) As already stated you're an ocean away, choppers cannot fly that far, even if something were invented the fuel consumption as compared to what it could carry would be idiotic.
How big is your navy if everything has full naval support ? you are not a big military power this far from home ! even nations which have confirmed they are mainly seafaring would struggle to guard every transport at a short range.
3) Is anybody mad enough to dock in the port of a city currently under attack just to sell some food ? leaving us with the flying part, they would be slow and easily shot down, if they fly high altitude the supplies would be scattered all over.
4) just how many aircraft are we talking about if nearly all are on carriers ??
5) i'm not a brilliant storyteller as it is so im not going to make crap basic posts saying "we flew into enemy and killed lots, they fly away, we win"Learn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.Comment
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np joncha, hes entitled to reply to this now and then other ppl will comment so doubt its gonna take up some spaceLearn to overcome the crass demands of flesh and bone, for they warp the matrix through which we perceive the world. Extend your awareness outward, beyond the self of body, to embrace the self of group and the self of humanity. The goals of the group and the greater race are transcendant, and to embrace them is to acheive enlightenment.Comment
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About Troy : the gods normally increase the sense of valour among the greeks, so it didnt remove this ?
what were the battle scenes like ? most are suggesting they're not as good as LoTR despite just as much being spent, the atmosphere isn't generated and the sieges have been drastically cut back as to not bore modern audiences.
ah well if you enjoyed it i might aswell go see it for myself soon, an excuse for a day off
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I'm about to take off again for an hour, so I won't respond except to say that there's a thread in the OT on Troy:
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This reminds me of the way we talk about games, school, women, and sports in the Beyond Alpha Centauri discussion threads.
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You're a freakin' Psychotic Dictatorship, man!
Live up to your name!
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I'm going to have to side with Lazerus on this one. Reliance on air supply (or any other 80s band ) alone is simply not feasible.
On the other side of things, neither is supporting an army of 4 million in the field. China's entire military is only about 750K, and they could only hope to field a fraction of that overseas. The US, for example, has about 135K in Iraq right now.~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~Comment
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jon: IIRC, the PRC had a army of 4 million, but they trimmed it down to 3 million now, and is still cutting down the size. It is entirely possible for the Hive to field a 4 million strong army, but I don't think it's possible to field a 4 million strong army as an invasion force. Not only because that probably mean Hive has another 4 million soldiers at home, but the logistics for such a huge force will be a complete nightmare.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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you are assuming all my suplies coming from auldonina . that not the case, we buy them from any free coutnry and have them ship them in to the Western isles and from their large transport planes and hleicopters running 24 hrs a day. If the israelis cna airlift a whole group of jews from africa to israel the nwe can fly supplies in.Originally posted by Lazerus
1) Ras your country is not rich enough to have every weapon targeted at me inside Azan precision guided, i spend best part of my income on military, twice your budget atleast, and i am certain i wouldnt even come close.
see above for why it not an ocean away. only a short skip jump from the western isles of azan and also from Western apolyton Region ...
2) As already stated you're an ocean away, choppers cannot fly that far, even if something were invented the fuel consumption as compared to what it could carry would be idiotic.
How big is your navy if everything has full naval support ? you are not a big military power this far from home ! even nations which have confirmed they are mainly seafaring would struggle to guard every transport at a short range.
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3) Is anybody mad enough to dock in the port of a city currently under attack just to sell some food ? leaving us with the flying part, they would be slow and easily shot down, if they fly high altitude the supplies would be scattered all over.[/q[ i see no one attacking the other nations in free azan having supply lines so why is this attack addressed at me....
doesnt matter what number i give you , you will psot you got more...
4) just how many aircraft are we talking about if nearly all are on carriers ??
wel lyoudid, you said your undermanned navy jsut attacked merchant shipping with no losses...
5) i'm not a brilliant storyteller as it is so im not going to make crap basic posts saying "we flew into enemy and killed lots, they fly away, we win"
Look if no one esle sees my side of things i wil ljust pull out,doesnt bother me whther i play here or not, if my nation which easily matches all other major palyers for military sizer and training then i dont know how else to role play...
So let me know. ... i can easily delete my nation from nation states if it upsets people so much that the Poor Hive is gonig to lose this war !!!!!GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71Comment
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Remebering that hive is the invading force here with the locals not too pleased to hav ethem...Originally posted by Urban Ranger
jon: IIRC, the PRC had a army of 4 million, but they trimmed it down to 3 million now, and is still cutting down the size. It is entirely possible for the Hive to field a 4 million strong army, but I don't think it's possible to field a 4 million strong army as an invasion force. Not only because that probably mean Hive has another 4 million soldiers at home, but the logistics for such a huge force will be a complete nightmare.
but apparently it ok for his forces to have unlimited supply in enemy territory but not ok for my army to gain supply from the friendly Azanis .....GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71Comment
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