I will be changing destination

[Leland]

Lies, you say?

[Maniac]

Well yes of course: lies! Anyway I'm lucky: I'll probably be able to send him a mail. Saturday I'll probably also have access so hopefully I can make the original deadline after all.

[Mihai]

I finally am able to post from home. Also I printed the manual I will read and analise ASAP. I am confident that I can respect the 10th of March deadline. So, send me your proposals - I will answer Friday, when I hope I will know what I am talking about.

I can't find the post right now, but I remember that someone said something about a program wich allow a player to simulate moves on Diplomacy game. That would be very helpful for me. Also I would highly apreciate a map of the game (I mean a link to such a map).

[Nath]

I think you'll find this site useful.

[Mihai]

Originally posted by amjayee
I found a really swell software for making siplomacy plans. It's called WarRoom, and it's excactly what the name implies; a complete, well working official Diplomacy map, with some cool interactive functions. Also, you can place units freely on the map, move them around, and even give the units orders and then resolve the moves. A really nice package, it gives me a feeling of a real leader of a nation in war. Get it here: http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/Red...n/WarRoom.html

Thanks Nath.
I downloaded a few maps that I think will be very useful for me.

I found the link amjayee was talking about, but it isn't working for me. Can you check it? It is really hard to analyse strategy with pen and paper. (I work so much on computer that I almost don't use anymore pen and paper )

[Nath]

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10044-100-6133541.html

http://www.viago.net/Paul_Martinsen/WarRoom.html

[S. Kroeze]

Originally posted by Mihai

I found the link amjayee was talking about, but it isn't working for me. Can you check it? It is really hard to analyse strategy with pen and paper. (I work so much on computer that I almost don't use anymore pen and paper )

I cannot help with this Warroom program, but will nevertheless give you some good advice: What about printing the Diplomacy map and enlarging it by photocopying?
Apart from the enlarged map you will only need some cubes to represent the units.
When analysing this game I want to be able to move all units around.

You will have noticed I am rather old-fashioned!

[S. Kroeze]

Question: If I take MUN & then disband that army in the next season-Winter, I won't lose MUN willI?

This is an rather important issue; understanding the order of the adjustment cycle is vital to understanding this game!

A supply centre occupied by a unit after Fall moves, is counted -at least for the duration of one year- as controlled by the power which occupied the centre, even when that power would disband that same occupying unit during adjustments.
XIII.1 "Occupation .... occurs when one of its units is located in that supply centre after a Fall move has been played, complete with retreats. Once occupation has been established, the centre may be left vacant for as long as the player sees fit...."

So this is the order during a Fall turn:
1. Fall moves
2. Fall retreats
3. Counting of supply centres
4. Adjustment: building/disbanding

Things that aren’t clear for me:
1. France has an army in Paris? (it said so in the Adjustments list, but doesn’t appers in the armies list)

Current position of units:

1874/75

ENG: F Bel, F MAO, F NWS
FRA: A Bur, A Rom, A Pic, A Kie, A Par, F Nap, F Lpl, F ENC, F Bre, F Mar
GER: A Swe, A Ber, A Ruh, F BAL
AUS: A Ven, A Tyr, A Rum, A Vie, A Bud, A Tri, F ADS
RUS: A Nor, A Mun, A Sil, A Gal, F BLA, F BAR
TUR: A Bul, A Ank, F Con, F Smy

Yes, France has an army in Paris!

2. NRO (=No Retreat Order?), NMR (= No More Replies?) = ? And if there are more abbreviatons.

NRO = No Retreat Ordered
NMR = No Move(s) Received
There are possibly a few other abbreviations. I will probably explain them when necessary.

3. There is no Denmark in the manual abbreviatons ?!?

For Denmark you can use Den. On page 3 of this same thread is an almost complete list of abbreviations used -actually there are two lists. Land provinces are never a problem:
"The first three letters of any space will almost always form an unambiguous abbreviation"

The only exceptions:
Lpl - Liverpool
Lvn - Livonia
NAf - North Africa

[Mihai]

France has way too many units! No wonder I miss one.

Thanks guys for the WarRoom program. It's just what I need.

If you happen to know some interesting sites with historical maps (political or battles) please give me a link.

[S. Kroeze]

Dear GGS'ers playing Diplomacy,

I have received a message from Nath, informing me he is -for the time being- too busy to send in orders. So the deadline needs to be delayed, unfortunately.

I have asked Nath to be more specific about the required delay, but so far I have not yet received a response. In this first e-mail he suggested I could search a substitute, but -apart from the fact that this is easier said than done- this would not contribute to the feeling of continuity of this game, "L'INVITATION AU VOYAGE", which has already experienced far to many replacements! So I hope he will react soon and the game can continue again.

Having received orders from all other players, these orders will remain valid of course. As ever, you can also send in new orders before the new deadline, replacing the old.

My apologies for the inconvenience!
I will keep you informed.

Sincere regards,

S.Kroeze

[S. Kroeze]

Dear GGS'ers playing Diplomacy,

Since I have still not received any sign of life from Nath I see no other solution than to search for a substitute (again !), willing to continue this game playing Austria-Hungary.

So I will not send you a game report of Fall 1875 until we have found a substitute. I will actively try to find a substitute for Austria-Hungary, yet I hope that you will all try to help finding one. Since it still commands seven units it is definitely worth trying. Please help us all!
All orders that I have received will remain valid of course. I will inform you all about a new deadline. You can also send me new orders before the new deadline, replacing the old.
I will keep you informed.

Sincere regards,

S.Kroeze

[asdiploaspossib]

Why doesn't anybody ask me to play Austria-Hungary?

[S. Kroeze]

How to buy the game of 'Diplomacy'?

Good advice can be found here.

[S. Kroeze]

Dear GGS'ers playing Diplomacy,

I have succeeded to find a substitute!
Korn469, an old friend of us, agreed to take over Austria-Hungary so our game "L'INVITATION AU VOYAGE " can be continued again.
I propose Tuesday, the 16th of April, 12.00AM(GMT) as the new deadline for Fall 1875; M@ni@c will be back by then.
Having received orders from most players already, those orders remain valid of course. You can also send me new orders before this new deadline, replacing the old.

Korn469's e-mail address is: commiextc@hotmail.com

Sincere regards and Thank you, Korn469!

S.Kroeze

Here is an example of orders for a Fall move:

A Tyr S A Pie
A Pie Holds (Retreat: Ven)
A Rom Holds
F Nap-TYS
F ION S F Nap-TYS (Retreat: ADS)
F Alb-Gre
A Ser S F Alb-Gre
A Bul S A Rum
A Rum S A Bul (Retreat: Bud)

Build priorities:
(If I gain one supply center and don't lose any) 1. F Tri
(If I lose Bulgaria) 1. A Bud, 2. A Vie

When sending in orders it is a good habit to mention the name of the game, the season and the power for which those orders are meant.

[S. Kroeze]

> i might need an extension on the deadline, not because of any problems in my
> life, or a lack of understanding of the rules or anything like that, the
> problem is i have only really made contact with two of the players and this
> has made it very hard to discuss diplomatic offers
>
> any ideas?

Dear Korn469,

I am sorry to hear that some players are not more active.
Yet this is no reason to extend the deadline, nor do I think it would help. When players do not contact you within 10 days, it is highly unlikely they will do so ever.

My advice is to send me temporary orders in the meantime, which you can always change -until the deadline.

Sincere regards,

S.Kroeze