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Ok, dinos are 2 of the 5 Archosaurs groups:
Thecodonts
Crocodiles
Pterosaurs
and the 2 Dinos groups:
Saurischia and Ornithischia
The first definition of a dino has been made in 1841 by Richard Owen, but it is not entirely true. Still, it is one of the best(and shortest) definition of a general dinosaur. PLEASE, don't read it if you don't know your anatomy well :
This group[Dinosauria] is characterized by a large sacrum composed of 5 anchylosed vertebrea of unusual construction, by the height and breadth and outward sculpturing of the neural arch of the dorsal vertebrea, by the twofold articulation of the ribs to the vertebrea, viz. at the anterior part of the spine by a head and tubercle, and along the rest of the trunk by a tubercle attached to the traverse process only; by broad and sometimes complicated coracoids and long and slender clavicles, whereby Crocodillian characters of the vertebral column are combined with a Lacertilian type of pectoral arch; the dental organs also exhibit the same transitional or annectent characters in a greater or less degree. The bones of the extremities are of large proportional size, for Saurians; they are provided with large medullary cavities, and with well-developed and unusual processes, and are terminated by metacarpal, metatarsal and phalangeal bones, which, with the exception of the ungual phalanges, more or less resemble those of the heavy pchydermal Mammals, and attest, with the hollow long-bones, the terestrial habits of the Species.(Richard Owen, Report on British Fossil Reptiles, pages 102-103)
To this he gave the name of Dinausoria.
As you can see, it is really precise and hard to understand If you did uunderstand, congrats, I wasn't able myself, hehe. But, this description is flawed :
The sacrum is common among dinosaurs but not always of this particular number. Clavivles are not characteristic among these reptiles.
Dinosaurs show great variety in the dentition. All of the dinosaurs were terrestrial reptiles, although some of them were of amphibious habits. Finally, not all dinosaurs were ofgreat size, and do not represent 'a distinct tribe' as Owen wrote in his book, but rather 2 very distinct reptilian orders. These 2 are distinc mostly because of their Pelvis and Skull(teeth).
Hope that helped
-Karhgath-Karhgath
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How about 'Sid made this'.
Hey, it'll sell.
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Thanks Karhgath
Luckily I still remember enough biology,paleoentogy and have the ability to not run in fear of scientific writing that it only took 15 minutes and two dictonaries to get the main jist of his definition and from what I could make of it and with your comments, it does sound horribly outdated.
'Dinosaur' and 'Dinosauria' seem like words everyone uses but no one knows exactly what they mean. It is words like these that can lead to extended arguements only to discover the problem was a short-comming communication
Thanks agian
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"Power doesn't corrupt; it merely attracts the corruptable"
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A little further web-surfing since I don't have the appropriate books here..
If you are into cladistic taxonomy (something that was only mentioned in passing in all those historical geology courses):
clade - a grouping of organisms that includes an ancestor and all of its descendents.
Holtz and Padian (1995) define Dinosauria as the most recent common ancestor of Triceratops and modern birds, and all its descendants.
These guys certianly are on the side that Aves evolved from a Dino lineage, hmmm.. what is the major sticking point for this agian (other then convention) something to do with which digit on the foot is vestigial?"Power doesn't corrupt; it merely attracts the corruptable"
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Ok, ok... back to the topic
Sid's Intellegent Dinosaurs: SID
if it's RTS: Dinocraft
hehe the more I think about it .. the more I like just plain ol' "Sid Meyer's Dinosaurs"
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"Power does not corrupt; it merely attracts the corruptable"
"Power doesn't corrupt; it merely attracts the corruptable"
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How about "Sid Meier's: Age of Dinosaurs", "The lost world: Dinosaurs" or "The race for intelligence"
HendrikThe Lost Geologist Blog
http://lostgeologist.blogspot.com
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SMARM: Sid Meier's Age of Reptile Mating
SMELL: Sid Meier's Evolution of Lizard Lovers
SMOG: Sid Meier's Ode to Glyptodon
SMUDGE: Sid Meier's Ultimate Dinosaur Geneology of Evolution
SMUG: Sid Meier's Uncivilized Game
SMUT: Sid Meier's Ug vs T-Rex
Bkeela.Voluntary Human Extinction Movement http://www.vhemt.org/
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What about:
Sid's Prehistoric Evolving Realtime Masterpiece.
Well that would just make a bad short name I guess.
Better make it SUPERGAME:
Sid's Ultimate Prehistoric Evolving Realtime GAME.
Not only a CivAddict, he's also a:
KeyboardAddict
-Play "Lazy" faster than Jon Lord
-Uses his nose in the finisning chords
-Plays "Child in time" blindfolded
BasketballAddict
-Scored from behind the 3-point arc, on the other end of the field.
-Once dunked over Shaquille O'Neal and woke up
-Wishes he was 1 feet taller...
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SauroPod Age by Sid Meier - SPASM
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Hey Pythagoras, this thread is just for fun, I think everybody here is pretty sure this game will be called Sid Meier's Dinosaurs..
At least I am.Not only a CivAddict, he's also a:
KeyboardAddict
-Play "Lazy" faster than Jon Lord
-Uses his nose in the finisning chords
-Plays "Child in time" blindfolded
BasketballAddict
-Scored from behind the 3-point arc, on the other end of the field.
-Once dunked over Shaquille O'Neal and woke up
-Wishes he was 1 feet taller...
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