a STATEMENT OF ACTIVISION TO THE CIV COMMUNITY

[TheBirdMan]

I am very sad to read that statement. I had hoped for something else.

[CapTVK]

quote: Originally posted by Nazgul on 01-20-2001 01:49 PM So i guess our hopes and dreams fall on CivIII shoulders now. I hope this one succeeds.

Never put all your eggs in one basket, Nazgul. The civ community has one ultimate ace up its sleeves: FreeCiv!

Sure, Freeciv improves in small incremental steps but those steps come along way in the end (take a look in the Freeciv forum or www.freeciv.org).

[joe77]

like we needed to be told that they really dont care about the quality of what they produce ...like we couldnt guess they were not gunna even make an effort to help...hah this is what the fans want is it ? BS We are the fans..and the rest of them just dont utilize web message boards or the internet at all to voice their opinion. We are the come back fans that care enough about the vidoe games we play to get in knee deep and debate the various aspects...

half ass job doing acivition employees..I hope you are proud of yourselves...and sins of the father..you kids are gunna learn this behavior from yu and turn out the same way..unless you lie to them and say "daddy worked hard today and brought positive change to the world"...which is another problem entirly..

bah I'll never by a product from you nor will any of my friends..I'll be sure to see to that...

-joe

[jkadabomb]

Alright Activision, I have been defending you from the start, but now I am totally pissed off after the work Ive seen other companies put into their games.

1. Look at valve. They fully supported HalfLife and spent many a month creating the free addon of Team Fortress Classic for it. In fact this was a very awsome mod. Along with that from the original halflife they added multiplayer support, and tons of customization ability. HalfLife has also been followed up with many patches and fixes. How long do you think it took them to create this?

2. Sierra created a free EXPANSION PACK for its great game of Ground Control. This aint no little scenario folkes.

These are only too examples but you can also look at plenty of other games. I have never seen a company so recklessly abandon one of there games. If you put in as much work as Sierra and Valve did, I will gaurantee sales of CTP2 would triple. You are probably abandoning CTP2 because it isnt making sales requirements. Well go ahead and abandon your ****ty game. Right now I am too pissed to say anything else, I will think 1,000,000,000 times before I buy another Activision title, especially when there are a lot of other great companies out their.

[OmniGod]

Okay... I thought that they'd have the brains to keep the people happy. I hoped they'd fix up the actual problems that they've given us. I hoped too much it seems. I was on the pro CTP2 side with the hope that changes would come, but now I am let down, pissed off and just generally peeved. I would now love to change the other post I had to read "I'm disgusted at the level of ACTIVISION intellect" I hate to say it but I think they will be losing any business from me in the future... a ctp3 will only be downloaded off the internet for free. If they don't wish to back up their product, I feel that I shouldn't have to pay for it. I don't generally advocate warez products, but if this is the road that Activision would like to go, I have no problem changing my stance on warez. You still have a change Activision... undo the statement you've made and come out with some patches... or give us the source code... some things really need to be fixed, or at least explained better.

Rich - the disgruntled Civer.

[wittlich]

I just signed on to check the forum....And I can't believe it!

Activision MARKETS and SELLS a MULTIPLAYER compatible game - CTP2 - which turns out NOT to be Multiplayer compatable AT ALL. We gripe, we complain, we report the problems/bugs....and their answer? Tough Titties, we're through with this game and we're moveing on to other horizons.

I've just gone through my "collection" of computer games, and guess what? I actually own 22 different games by Activision!!!

Well NO MORE.

Activision, you ROYALLY SCREWED the customers that have in the past flocked to the Activision name - I realize that I have been one of your flock...until now.


How do you expect to get away with this type of criminal activity - False advertisement for one? You are not actually expecting your sales revenues to increase in the near future?!?!

Mark my word Activision, Firaxis/Hasbro is taking note. Let's see how well they will treat their customers with the eventual release of CIV3...I have every confidence that we will not be treated the same them!!

So, on a last note, let's all move on over to the APOLYTON CIV3 Site forum, since the CTP2 is just a waste of time!

PS: Apolyton, you have done a great job cutting through the BS and for that I'm thankful and will remain a avid follower of your site

Ciao!

[CapTVK]

Maybe we should rename this thread to:

"It's official: Activision sucks!"


I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist the temptation!

[Mister Pleasant]

It figures. Let me say that CTP 2 is the best of the Civ games so far. But its very dissapointing that Activision has chosen to orphan such a worthy project. I will not be buying anymore of their products in the future either. Are a few AI tweaks to toughen the damn thing that difficult?

[Darkknight]

i'd just like to mention you can have PBEM and Hotseat if you want as said by noone from activision
There's a secret hidden in english/uidata/layouts/spnewgame.ldl. If you search for two buttons whose ypix value
are -490, and take the - sign off, two much requested features will become visible on the main screen.


but still they are dumping us after only two months we payed good money for this game and expect some support

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[Mike the Nuke]

quote: Originally posted by Darkknight on 01-20-2001 07:49 PM i'd just like to mention you can have PBEM and Hotseat if you want as said by noone from activision There's a secret hidden in english/uidata/layouts/spnewgame.ldl. If you search for two buttons whose ypix value are -490, and take the - sign off, two much requested features will become visible on the main screen.

It may be there and it may or may not work properly. I see no reason for myself or anyone else to 'barf' up $50 for a game that "officially" does not have the options (PBEM/Hot Seat, or other such items) they want. I and others do appreciate your efforts to reminds us of these hidden features that Ogre posted sevearl weeks back.
Thanks, but they are not support by Activision, so may not work properly. Therefor, I will save my money for something better.

This is typical of todays big business monguls. Sell you crap, pretend to be concerned, then 'piss on you' and claim they don't have the time to correct THEIR mistakes. It's plain and simple, they do not give a s__t about their customers. Therefor, they shouldn't have any customers. We should all join together and BOYCOTT all of their crap!

One thing I can be happy about. I DIDN'T WASTE MY MONEY ON THIS LOUSY GAME. IT DIDN'T HAVE WHAT I WANTED (Hot Seat), so I didn't waste cash on it in hopes that this thoughtless company would ever upgrade the game with the required patches. I saw through their EXCUSSES from the get go.

From what I read in these forums on CTP2 and saw in CTP1 (played it all the time with the family), this game had lots of possibilites. Instead they created a flop, that was rated a flop, and therefor fell off the sales charts. Thus, they feel they cannot make any economic recovery worth the time it would take to correct the game and add the desired features, now. They probably could have done them, if they hadn't let the 'bean counter mentality' force them to rush the game out before Christmas. I sure hope that the folks making CIV3 are following the posts on this site and are learning something.

[This message has been edited by Mike the Nuke (edited January 20, 2001).]

[Sarxis]

Sales are probably down.

Going to go finish a game of SMAX now. HAHA!! GET IT?! FINISH... LOL!!

uh, hmm..

[D4everman]

Well, Activision shows its true colors. I guess they're happy since they got my 40 bucks. I hope they spend it well since it will be the last cent they ever see from me.

I'm sure it doesn't matter to them too much, but I'll be sure to write a letter to AAFES about activision's lack of consumer support. I'm sure they won't pull the games from the shelf, but it'll make me feel better.

D4

[D4everman]

Well, Activision shows its true colors. I guess they're happy since they got my 40 bucks. I hope they spend it well since it will be the last cent they ever see from me.

I'm sure it doesn't matter to them too much, but I'll be sure to write a letter to AAFES about activision's lack of consumer support. I'm sure they won't pull the games from the shelf, but it'll make me feel better.

D4

[marster]

Tell activision what you think.
http://www.activision.com/support/email.asp

-mario

[Alpha Wolf]

For all of those that know the game has bugs, I'd return it to the store with the valid claim that the game has bugs that activision does not intend to fix and as such you want a refund. I thought it was strange that I didnt see the game in some local software stores. Guess some stores were smart and didnt want the hassle of dealing with a defective game. As I suspected all along, the problems with this game had less to do with bad programming and more to do with horrid management. It amazes me that putting out defective software has become the norm because its so hard to return opened software.

To activision, as the song says "kiss this!!!!!!"

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