ELECTION: Term 3 Minister of Domestic Affairs

[HuangShang]

wow, 44 posts in one night, and i have barely a clue on whats up

[H Tower]

can we please campaign in this thread? file a case already instead of complaining. I can't stand posturing, either do something about this or quiet down so people can campaign already

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
The constitution does not recognise the APP, any political party or other grouping.

The point is not about the constitution recognizing a party or not but about the constitution allowing or not a nominate to be publicly announced by a third party with the consent (expressed publicly or not) of the said nominate.

Article V - (e) does not require the nominate to publicly express its nomination himself nor does it prevent the nomination to be made publicly known by a third party.

This is what we call a "vide juridique" (I would translate it roughly as "legal vacuum") in France. The Article V - (e) is open to interpretation and the task of the Judge is literally to "say the law".

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by H Tower
can we please campaign in this thread? file a case already instead of complaining. I can't stand posturing, either do something about this or quiet down so people can campaign already

Zaphod, the other members we will manage to reach and I will take a decision about filing a case or not tomorrow.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Tamerlin
Article V - (e) does not require the nominate to publicly express its nomination himself nor does it prevent the nomination to be made publicly known by a third party.

here is the said section:

(e) At the start of the election process, the Court must start a nomination thread. All citizens who wish to be candidates for an office must publicly express their nomination in this thread. For this they have three days.

All citizens who wish to run must express their candidacy. I didn't see you announce your candidacy. mapfi nominated me, gilg put an asterik near my name, because i had to accept the nomination, the same goes for you as well, except you ran out time because you delayed to the very end.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by H Tower
...except you ran out time because you delayed to the very end.

The Constitution does not require the nominate to publicly express he accepts the nomination. The Constitution only requires the nomination to be publicly expressed which has been done in time.


Should I be allowed to be a candidate I would promote the building of defensive and offensive units in all our cities in order to support the ongoing war against Austria and garrison our territory.

As soon as the war is over I would like to put the emphasis again on science and build some other settlers as we need to increase our science rate and settle the remaining land before our opponents. We will also need to build a wonder (like the Ramajana) that would give us the edge over the other nations and would help to manage our young empire. However production should not be totally ignored in favor of science as the benefit we would earn from increasing our production rate would greatly affect our ability to produce the buildings and units that are needed to further our development.

The opinion of the citizens on these subjects would of course be asked through regular polls as they are the ultimate judges.

[Pedrunn]

As youmay know by now. I chose you during a turn chat and i did not do so just because you were there but because you have been a very active poster in the MoDA related issues. You were my choice for a MoDA even before your nomination.

I hope to be with you in the government. Your enthusiasm is contagious!

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by Pedrunn
As youmay know by now. I chose you during a turn chat and i did not do so just because you were there but because you have been a very active poster in the MoDA related issues. You were my choice for a MoDA even before your nomination.

I hope to be with you in the government. Your enthusiasm is contagious!

Thanks Pedrunn, your support is welcomed as I was becoming a bit discouraged (not because of Gilgamensh's decision as he is only applying the law as he thinks it should be, we have had some trouble to join our members and especially IW and I didn't knew there would be any problem with a third party announcement as it is the first election I am involved in).

[Tamerlin]

As you name no one I hope those encouragements are for me... hmm, actually I think they are for MrBaggins.

[Pedrunn]

I thought mrbaggins was running uncontested.

The sames goes for you after all I also nominate you for MoDTS delegate and all the words does fit on you.

But i meant mrbaggins (I nominated him for MoDA delegate).


*Pedrunn fells off his chair due so much laughing

[miggio]

I think you should just file a case and get this settled because waiting on the Case may cripple the progression of our empire

[H Tower]

Originally posted by miggio
I think you should just file a case and get this settled because waiting on the Case may cripple the progression of our empire

Thank you! That's what I've been trying to tell them all day

[Tamerlin]

Public Announcement

After some reflection I have decided not to file a case and plead my cause in front of the Lemurian Court.

Though I believe this case could easily be defended in front of our judges, the legal process is too long and the issue would certainly not be settled before the end of these elections which would require our citizens to vote again, something the active citizens don't want.

Considering the lack of concern and commitment from the vast majority of the less active citizens I now consider opening a file would be useless and would only result in petty quarrels that would work against the interest of our nation that which I don't want.

In the near future I will ask for an amendment of our Constitution in order to revise the Article V - (e) which should clearly state a Nomination have to be personally expressed by the nominate.

Long life to our Democracy,
Long life to Lemuria.

[MrBaggins]

Thank you for your kind comments, Pedrunn.

As a candidate for MoDA, I feel I am well qualified, by my understanding of game mechanics: I know well, the processes which contribute to a cities productiveness (or non-productiveness) and the tweaks that can be made to get the most out of them... and the issues of loss and gain that other effects, such as happiness or disbanding, cause.

As another example, with regards to city placement, I have designed a spreadsheet to project the growth rate and productive quality of a prospective site.

I feel that I would serve the nation in an able manner, and would be able to react to the unexpected and adjust plans, whilst still keeping the grand vision in mind.

I stand as a progressive candidate, seeking to quickly garrison our cities and get to the serious business of productive improvement. Our frontline cities will produce the offensive and defensive troops necessary to defend and expand our empire.

At the moment our entire empire is a frontline. I wish our Austrian campaign well... and hope to be in a position, eventually to settle cities north of the northern river path, to form buffer cities, so that we can have peace of mind, and an ability to develop without regard to war in the heart of our empire.

Furthermore, as MoDA, I shall attempt to predict forseeable choices and get an idea of the will of the people on these matters.

MrBaggins

[Frozzy]

Originally posted by H Tower

here is the said section:

(e) At the start of the election process, the Court must start a nomination thread. All citizens who wish to be candidates for an office must publicly express their nomination in this thread. For this they have three days.

All citizens who wish to run must express their candidacy. I didn't see you announce your candidacy. mapfi nominated me, gilg put an asterik near my name, because i had to accept the nomination, the same goes for you as well, except you ran out time because you delayed to the very end.

That says sod all about the candidate in question having to accept it. Zaphod announced the candidacy ON THE BEHALF of Tamerlin. Tamerlin expressed his wish to be a candidate, albeit in the guise of Beeblebrox. Thus all the above clauses have been met.