ELECTION: Term 3 Minister of Domestic Affairs

[Dinner]

With a name like Baggins he must be good. Of course if another person was running then I might change my mind.

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Tamerlin


Most of the real word democracies adhere to the following principle as far as law is concerned: "what is not expressively forbidden is allowed".

Not in *this* democracy. That needs to be specified... and it just isn't in ours.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

there is another person running

[MrBaggins]

Re: ELECTION: Term 3 Minister of Domestic Affairs

Originally posted by Gilgamensch
ELECTION: Term 3 Minister of Domestic Affairs

Dear Apolemurians,

this election is to vote for a Minister of Domestic Affairs, who will serve a one month term.

The only person running for this office is MrBaggins.

Therefore the poll will be only a Yes/No/Abstain-poll, with the meaning:

Yes = You want MrBaggins to become a elected Minister of Domestic Affairs
No = You reject MrBaggins as a Minister of Domestic Affairs
Abstain = You don't care.

This poll will expire in 5 days on the 20th February 2003, 14:00 GMT.

In the name of our constitution and the name of our people, Senior Justice Gilgamensch

No, there isn't.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox
there is another person running

you need to file a case zaphod if you're going to make claims like this

[Tamerlin]

I have just read again the nominations thread and I must admit the time limit was indeed 12:00 GMT which I misread as midnight as in anglo-saxon countries time is almost always expressed as 12:00 am or 12:00 pm which was not the case.

Furthermore I must note the first post on the thread has been edited today and the following line seems to have been added:
The nomination period would normally end on February 15th (Saturday), 12:00 GMT.

I might be wrong but as far as I can remember the original post did not mentionned a time limit.

I will read again the constitution tonight and look carefully to the conditions that must be respected in order to be nominated.

[H Tower]

"
I might be wrong but as far as I can remember the original post did not mentionned a time limit.
"
I think you're wrong, i remember the time limit mentioned from the begining. The editing you are referring too is Gilg updating who has been nominated

[GhengisFarb™]

So we are we voting Yes the election shall be the candidate or No the election shall not hold office?

[H Tower]

seeing as how you aren't a member, you aren't voting at all

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by H Tower
"
I might be wrong but as far as I can remember the original post did not mentionned a time limit.
"
I think you're wrong, i remember the time limit mentioned from the begining. The editing you are referring too is Gilg updating who has been nominated

Ooops!

[Tamerlin]

Time limit

It would have not been fair play to recognize the time limit was 12:00 GMT.

Whatsoever the posts are dated as GMT+2 hours.

Zaphod Beeblebrox has posted the nomination list of the APP on the 3rd Term Nominations thread at 13:57 which means it was actually posted at 11:57 GMT. The nomination list has thus been posted in time according to the time limit fixed by Gilgamensh.

The problem is now not to know if the post has been sent within the time limit but to know if a candidate can be nominated by a third party (with the consent of the nominate, which I have given myself to our Prime Secretary Zaphod Beeblebrox) or if the constitution requires him to do so personnally. I will check the constitution tonight and express myself on the need to open a case or not.

Tamerlin
Delegate of the APP

[H Tower]

you could also argue that the 12:00 GMT is wrong as well. Gilg made the first post several hours before 12:00GMT ont he 12th. If you argue that way, then Zaphod should be removed from his election as well.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by H Tower
you could also argue that the 12:00 GMT is wrong as well. Gilg made the first post several hours before 12:00GMT ont he 12th. If you argue that way, then Zaphod should be removed from his election as well.

Gilgamensh post states the time limit is 12:00 GMT and there is nothing to argue beyond this. Read again and you will see I am right. The time I am referring to is expressed at the bottom of each Apolyton Website page.

[Tamerlin]

This is the text of our Constitution regarding nominations:

(e) At the start of the election process, the Court must start a nomination thread. All citizens who wish to be candidates for an office must publicly express their nomination in this thread. For this they have three days.

Beyond the fact the Nomination must be announced publicly through the "Nominations" thread our Constitution does not require the Nominate to do so personnally.

Everybody knows Zaphod and I are members of the APP and that the important decisions of our Party are taken after the members have reached a common consent on the subject. Everybody also knows that Zaphod Beeblebrox is the Prime Secretary of the APP and that he is entitled to speak in our name as I am myself to a lesser degree as a Second Secretary.

I hereby think there is enough matter to open a case in the Court thread as the APP Nominations has been posted in time (13:57 is 11:57 GMT).

I will inform the citizens as soon as possible of the decision of the APP to open or not a case.

Be sure MrBaggins our intent is not to injure your reputation in any way and that I remain a faithfull servant of our Nation.

[MrBaggins]

The constitution does not recognise the APP, any political party or other grouping.