ELECTION: Term 3 Minister of Domestic Affairs

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

and no mention, that they have to do this from their own account.

[MrBaggins]

Yes it does...

All citizens who wish to be candidates for an office must publicly express their nomination in this thread.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

so has comrade tamerlin done, through an press release of the app, presenting all candidates in one post. tamerlin can and will ensure you of this, as soon as he will be online tonight

[MrBaggins]

1) Political parties are not recognised by the constitution. The Lemurian Herald is not recognised by the consititution.

2) the nomination must be made in the nomination thread, by the candidate. Merely stating an intention in another thread is insufficient.

3) The article in question clearly states that the citizen must publicly express their candidacy. No 3rd party nomination, without the express statement of the candidate, himself, has ever stood.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Originally posted by MrBaggins

the nomination must be made [b]in the nomination thread

as it was done

[MrBaggins]

the nomination must be made in the nomination thread, by the candidate

No, it wasn't.

The candidate in question did not post any candidacy post in the nomination thread. You did.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

from where are you quoting?
that sentence isn't in the con!

if quoting, one should always indicate from where one is quoting, otherwise it looks as one would try to fool the people

[MrBaggins]

I was quoting my earlier post...

by mrbaggins
1) Political parties are not recognised by the constitution. The Lemurian Herald is not recognised by the consititution.

2) the nomination must be made in the nomination thread, by the candidate. Merely stating an intention in another thread is insufficient.

3) The article in question clearly states that the citizen must publicly express their candidacy. No 3rd party nomination, without the express statement of the candidate, himself, has ever stood.

just as you did.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

yes, i did quote you, responding to your arguments.
your quote nevertheless might have been misread as from the constitution if someone would read not as carefull. i wanted to point out, that you aren't reciting the con.

i think you mrbaggins and myself we won't achieve any much more here until a judge and your contrahent in the elections show up. so let me ask you soem other question, just for passing time, from prime secretary of one party to "chairman" of another: how do you believe, democracy works? what do you think of people, who claim the are the head of any organisation, be it a club, a political party, or a nation, though there was no election?

[MrBaggins]

I was directly responding to the prior post, and INCLUDING THE ENTIRE SENTENCE. You ommited a part of the sentence without any notification, since to include that part of the sentence, which I had enboldened would have invalidated your position.

I believe a Democracy works by adherance to the constitution, AS WRITTEN.

If the constitution does not apply to a particular event, you don't assume that something is permitted or denied, but clarify through the judicial process.

Speech of political parties or groupings is irrelevent; they are arbitrary self organization of citizenry. Only individual citizens are recognized under the constitution.

I believe that the consititution is clear on the requirements of valid nomination. I welcome a judicial ruling.

MrBaggins

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

the constitution isn't that clear, at least not in that direction to which you and gilgamensch interpret it. it doesn't distinguish between nominees and candidates.

[MrBaggins]

Correct.

There is no such thing as a nominee in the constitution.

Only candidates. Candidates nominate(notice the verb) themselves.

[Tamerlin]

The nomination was supposed to end tonight at midnight so my nomination would have to be accepted. Furthermore I don't see why Zaphod won't be able to nominate me as MoDA as this has been extensively discussed between us. I don't have the time to catch up with the threads now but you should already be informed I will contest the result of this election as I am accepting the nomination and as the time limit was supposed to be tonight at midnight.

[Tamerlin]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
If the constitution does not apply to a particular event, you don't assume that something is permitted or denied, but clarify through the judicial process.

Most of the real word democracies adhere to the following principle as far as law is concerned: "what is not expressively forbidden is allowed".

[H Tower]

oh geez. talk about divinding our country over party politics. Shame on both parties in this. I weep for our future.