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**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 07:49

"One citizen, one vote" as would say Ankh-Morpork's Patrician.

**medio** · February 5, 2003, 09:53

We only lost by one vote. How many APP are there out there?

Organization is the key to our success. We should vote as a block, more or less.

Right now there is a Diplo policy poll that is pretty even between war and peace.

Even though we dont have a Minister in the Cabinet we can still influence policy.

we need writing

**medio** · February 5, 2003, 10:14

Both candidates for Secretary seem to have similar positions, but since tamerlain is our founders' only competition, and at the same time supports him I vote Zaphod.

. All hail the great Zaphod Beeblebrox!

May our decendants enjoy ass & grass long after we have reached the clearing @ the end of the path.

**Zaphod Beeblebrox** · February 5, 2003, 10:27

thank you medio, that comes to
zaphod 2
tamerlin 0
abstain 1

still a close call

**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 12:14

May I recall all my camarades I am Zaphod's self proclaimed second candidate for this office...

**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 12:30

Originally posted by medio
We only lost by one vote. How many APP are there out there?

I think we are only four (or five) but that we will convince more Apolymurians as time goes.

Organization is the key to our success. We should vote as a block, more or less.

This is why as soon as I notice a thread I post here to ask for the official policy of the APP. We should all act this way and debate here before voting, if we can all vote the same we will have more power as we will be able to take over the decision, perhaps should we debate through private messages as we are spied. I think of a little trick that would allow us to make a "coup" on important issues.

I will tell you more about this later through private messages.

Right now there is a Diplo policy poll that is pretty even between war and peace.

As simplistic as it may be the official position is "befriend all" and share the hemp of peace with all...

Even though we dont have a Minister in the Cabinet we can still influence policy.

Right!

we need writing

It's a pity we have not exchanged posts earlier, the position of the APP is currently Slavery as we need mines to rise our production level and send more settlers in the wilds around us. Mines will allow us to produce more units, more buildings that will in turn allow us to increase the science rate and thus accelerate the rythm of our discoveries.

Zaphod (I can be wrong) and I (that I am quite sure) have already voted for Slavery.

About the best site where to create our third city, we have chosen the tile north to the coal site.

**medio** · February 5, 2003, 13:04

i knew Zaphod was leaning that way, but i didnt know if it was official APP policy. It appears i mistakenly voted against us

in the future we should come to a consensus before anyone votes so we all know what direction to move in.
other than the city site, and research (which are already decided) i dont know if there are any major policy issues we can weigh in on.

BTW do we have any Ministers in the cabinet, and on a related note, who shall we run for Pres when that comes up? Zaphod would seem the obvious choice since he is our leader. However if we can come up with a candidate that is more palatable to the masses we should consider it.

**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 14:11

Originally posted by medio
i knew Zaphod was leaning that way, but i didnt know if it was official APP policy. It appears i mistakenly voted against us

in the future we should come to a consensus before anyone votes so we all know what direction to move in.
other than the city site, and research (which are already decided) i dont know if there are any major policy issues we can weigh in on.

I can not agree more.

BTW do we have any Ministers in the cabinet, and on a related note, who shall we run for Pres when that comes up? Zaphod would seem the obvious choice since he is our leader. However if we can come up with a candidate that is more palatable to the masses we should consider it.

I don't think so, Zaphod is actually an obvious choice though Immortal Wombat could earn some benefits from the previous campaign. Note: he is also a well known modder and is thus far more popular than most of us.

**Immortal Wombat** · February 5, 2003, 15:10

Yeah, but it also means I'm horribly lazy and have the attention span of a herring, which means I'm not likely to do anything...

**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 19:10

Just tell us you don't want to be president!

**Zaphod Beeblebrox** · February 5, 2003, 20:12

Originally posted by Tamerlin

Zaphod (I can be wrong) and I (that I am quite sure) have already voted for Slavery.

About the best site where to create our third city, we have chosen the tile north to the coal site.

well, i haven't voted yet, reading the debates, but i'm still in favor of slavery, though the more important argument is, that we could really use a few "immigrants" from the barbs. of course those can later help digging the mines.

i think the coal site is unquestioned, what we have to think about is a good place for city #4 and maybe even #5, so we convince the unaligned (and perhaps even some wp-members, there are more than us, but tend to disagree quite often with each other) settling will be the better policy than invoking war.

**Zaphod Beeblebrox** · February 5, 2003, 20:27

Originally posted by medio
BTW do we have any Ministers in the cabinet, and on a related note, who shall we run for Pres when that comes up? Zaphod would seem the obvious choice since he is our leader. However if we can come up with a candidate that is more palatable to the masses we should consider it.

well, i won't have time to be president anyway neither this nor the next month and as the rl-party im a member of

i am against being president and partychairman because that mixes different interests. and in addition, i'm not sure whether we should run for presidency right now. pedrunn is a good president (though from the wrong party) and most people see him so, we won't get popular by leaning in against him, and one even more important point: the president is the most unimportant job in the cabinet! he only enacts what ministers and resolutions want him to do. iirc his only important decisions are whether to veto rushbuilding and changing sliders, which can only be used effective to hamper our nation, not to benefit it. and locutus is doing a good job as chief of the foreign office as well, as long as the people demand the proper ways of diplomacy from him. we should rather try to get our foot in the ministry of defence, where we can prove against the barbs (and perhaps we will be forced to prove against other nations

that we aren't just dope-smoking hippies, as the wp sees us. we should try as well to get the ministry of domestic affairs so we can control the way our cities will develop, in addition this isn't a very popular ministry at this early stage of the game, so there won't be that fierce a competition to it. once we hold offices we can prove the people that our party means a big benefit to our beloved nation.

**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 21:53

I agree with you dear Prime Secretary.

**MrBaggins** · February 5, 2003, 22:34

well... if you came up with better policies...

instead of "more ass and grass"

use "more ass whuppin"

you might get some more votes...

**Tamerlin** · February 5, 2003, 22:40

Originally posted by MrBaggins
well... if you came up with better policies...

instead of "more ass and grass"

use "more ass whuppin"

you might get some more votes...

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