Multiplayer Strategy Guide

[Gavrushka]

Originally posted by Nimrod
A discussion and poll regarding the different
governmants can be found here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=25466&pagenumber=1

Surprisingly, fasism was voted more popular than
democracy and communism. Hehe, but the best
government acorrding to the poll is corporate
republic. No one voted for monarchy or republic at
the time of this post, I dont blame you people. My
order of governments is usaully
theo-->commi-->corporate republic.

Fusion tank thread can be found here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28392

I love them, they can move over shallows and have 8
movment points.

In your opintion, what is the hardest part of the
game? Find out others opinion here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27986

A "most powerful wonder" discussion can be found here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5500

For pure reading enjoyment, here is a story from an undeafeted diety player:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5457

Someone asked for other people tricks and tips, that can be found here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5200

I found all these in the stratagy/creation/help forum on CTP here at apolyton. I have to get to class so I was unable to finish. Sometime in the near future, I hope to organize this thread for all to read.

Nimrod, I got 50 megs of webspace on www.civleague.com - I would love to donate some space to Strategies and or even just a list of links to these threads - I think all this information is far too valuable to just slip into obscurity!

[Boney]

Ah, I understand now

because Nimrod is NOT a registered name in gameleague CTP or CTP2.

So, Black Ice, can you check if I am registered at GL? I joined a long time ago but never played a game with another GL player.

I have seen another paul hanging around in the cali12, but he never chats or acknowledges my presence, is this the same paulno1?

Another thing, thanks for the research Nimrod. In fact this whole thread has given me an incite into game play, thus improving my confidence.

The last 3 times I played on-line I was soundly beaten, the only game I was in with any sort of chance was with Black Ice and Gav, and even then I was starting to fall behind.* This led to the conclusion that the other players were not playing fair, as they were massively ahead. I know BI is a great player who does not cheat so when I compare other players I now set my standard by BI. In this way I know when others are cheating. But I was left with a sour feeling in my mouth which has discouraged me from playing on-line, especially when they totally denied it.

BI I am in favour of you playing using aliases to find cheats. But most cheats play under different names and barely converse during a game. I find that fair players talk between moves and get to know their opponents, it is this part of the game that I like.

*Actually this could probably count as another victory for Black Ice, as Gav was not really involved as he joined midway into the game. But not having another defeat to my name is also okay


Oh must go!!

[Gavrushka]

Originally posted by Boney
Ah, I understand now



So, Black Ice, can you check if I am registered at GL? I joined a long time ago but never played a game with another GL player.

I have seen another paul hanging around in the cali12, but he never chats or acknowledges my presence, is this the same paulno1?

Another thing, thanks for the research Nimrod. In fact this whole thread has given me an incite into game play, thus improving my confidence.

The last 3 times I played on-line I was soundly beaten, the only game I was in with any sort of chance was with Black Ice and Gav, and even then I was starting to fall behind. This led to the conclusion that the other players were not playing fair, as they were massively ahead. I know BI is a great player who does not cheat so when I compare other players I now set my standard by BI. In this way I know when others are cheating. But I was left with a sour feeling in my mouth which has discouraged me from playing on-line, especially when they totally denied it.

BI I am in favour of you playing using aliases to find cheats. But most cheats play under different names and barely converse during a game. I find that fair players talk between moves and get to know their opponents, it is this part of the game that I like.

Oh must go!!

Boney, there are certain players that will always cheat, and certain players that will NEVER cheat, if ever you are playing someone you don't know, let Blackice know who they are, and I am sure he can give you some Background on them- There are soo many honourable players, more than ever before, - mainly because Of Blackices Crusade against cheating- email any of us for a game, I would be delighted to play against you -

The more you play the better you get, it really is a question of learning some basic strategies, then tailoring them to your own style of game play.

[blackice]

So, Black Ice, can you check if I am registered at GL? I joined a long time ago but never played a game with another GL player.

Yes if you give me your GL name if it is boney then you no longer have a GL account. I will keep my GL account in the future but will let this one lapse and take a new name just to watch We have discovered a new cheat and are working out some fixes so far we seem to be clean of it. We will announce it soon and make people aware of what it does and how it works. Once you hear it you will understand how some of these "great" players win. Lets keep PBEM'ers clean and enjoy an honest days carnage Good gaming people.

I have seen another paul hanging around in the cali12, but he never chats or acknowledges my presence, is this the same paulno1?

Yes that sounds like paul

Another thing, thanks for the research Nimrod. In fact this whole thread has given me an incite into game play, thus improving my confidence.

Great thread something GL players have never had the moxy to do! Good job

The last 3 times I played on-line I was soundly beaten, the only game I was in with any sort of chance was with Black Ice and Gav, and even then I was starting to fall behind. This led to the conclusion that the other players were not playing fair, as they were massively ahead. I know BI is a great player who does not cheat so when I compare other players I now set my standard by BI. In this way I know when others are cheating. But I was left with a sour feeling in my mouth which has discouraged me from playing on-line, especially when they totally denied it.

I did, do the same thing Boney. Gav, Quinn, the list goes on are all great players. PBEM is full of great players it is a pleasure to play here and to get to know the people. Flames was one of the first players of that crowd that quit because of the cheating going on. Look at GL and look at PBEM we keep growing GL is dead. Seems more people prefer good honest, hard earned win and game playing to that of a quick fix.

BI I am in favour of you playing using aliases to find cheats. But most cheats play under different names and barely converse during a game. I find that fair players talk between moves and get to know their opponents, it is this part of the game that I like.

So true the win is all that counts for some of these people too bad really. This game obviously can be very social and very much a challenge. Cheers I could not agree more I have met many good people world wide amazing really very much a compliment to the people who play here and the internet.

Gav, Nimrod this thread should be organzied and posted on a permanent site it would be a great referance to the game and the people who like even game play and tips.

[Nimrod]

Boney your welcome.

Gav, I probably wont be able to get to this till March, end of this current quarter, but I will be working on it between now and then. Any special way you would like it setup?

Blackice, anytime

[Gavrushka]

Originally posted by Nimrod
Boney your welcome.

Gav, I probably wont be able to get to this till March, end of this current quarter, but I will be working on it between now and then. Any special way you would like it setup?

Blackice, anytime

Nimrod, if I get a chance I will cut and paste all the stuff into shape - I guess the best way to keep it is pretty much how it is presently organised, Governments, Units, playing styles, individual strategies.... Relating how a game plays out is a pretty good read too!

[Nimrod]

Hey anyone want to test various stratagies? For example, if we wanted to see who would win between destroyers and submarines, 2 players start on an all sea, except for the grassland tile their cities are on, small map with 5 cities each, pop 20. Each one with volcanos, for mining, on one side, open ocean on the other, for fisheries. Goods on all tiles within a city's area. Granaries, aquaduct, mills, factories, oil refineries, market places, banks, and city clocks have already been built within each city. One player only builds destroyers and the other builds subs. Both sides have swarms in space they can use to take cities as long as there are no units defending it. Piracy, pillaging, and scienctific research should not be allowed.

Well?

Afterthought:
Can subs bombard and attack cities?

[blackice]

Subs can not bombard but if you crash them into cities they wipe out a nine stack real easy.

[Nimrod]

Think your subs can beat my destroyers blackice?

[Av8tor]

Originally posted by Nimrod
Think your subs can beat my destroyers blackice?

Nimrod,

Subs are much more than a match against destroyers. Subs have a much more difficult time against battleships and probably end up losing most confrontations. My advise is to combine destroyers and battleships in your ASW battles.

[Gavrushka]

Originally posted by blackice
Subs can not bombard but if you crash them into cities they wipe out a nine stack real easy.

Blackice found this the hard way from Paulino1..... :LOL:

Most units have their uses..... Submarines are most effective in the gap between oil refining and Mass Prod.... Destroyers are good modern age sea scouts, good for riding shotgun for sea invasion fleets..... But as Nukeboy correctly says it is not the types of unit, but the way they are combined that makes the difference... For instance later in the game when you have Plasma Destroyers, you try Bombarding Battleships (made obsolete by the Plasmas) and you will lose - attack em head on and you'll have an easy win.... Stealth Subs are immensely powerful Sea units, and rule from below the waves in the end game

[Nimrod]

A note about small maps

Personally I rarely use warriors for exploration on small maps. With your opponents close by a slaver would be a better opition. He can slide into the heart of your opponent or enslave would-be settlers as they venture out into the world.

[Gavrushka]

*BUMP*
This thread was very useful, not just to New Players, but to all!

[Grandpa Troll]

Wow!

I have certainly learned quite a bit myself!

Thanks for all the helpful hints, seems like Blackise, Gavruska and Faded Glory are some of the tops!

Keep the info flowing folks!


Yours In Civin

Troll

[Gavrushka]

Originally posted by Troll
Wow!

I have certainly learned quite a bit myself!

Thanks for all the helpful hints, seems like Blackise, Gavruska and Faded Glory are some of the tops!

Keep the info flowing folks!


Yours In Civin

Troll

Nah.. Faded Glory is crap!!!! .... But his girlfriend is really pretty..

BerXpert is a very good player.... but we are usually all put to shame by PaulNo1.... now that guy IS good...... I don't know if his Girlfriend is pretty or not though... ....