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  • Uh-oh... the H word makes an appearance. I thought we were gonna be silent on the honor thing?

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    • We could petition to censor it in the Civ4 part of the forum. "Learning, ***** and victory" would sound much heartier, now would it?

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      • That would be funny as hell.

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        • If another team put something like my paragraph on philosophy in its Civilopedia entry, I wouldn't see any reason to be offended. On the contrary, I would appreciate the indication that we can expect them to try to deal honorably as long as we do.

          I agree that we need to avoid taking an "in your face" attitude trumpeting Stormian honor. But to the extent that we can give indications of our desire for honorable relations without getting "in your face" about it, I view that as more likely to be beneficial than harmful - unless maybe conflicts in the previous game have left such deep wounds that even the most innocuous mention of honor from Gathering Storm would reopen them.

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          • I think Nathan's use is OK. It's the diplomats and the public forum presence that will hang that on us, or not, I think.

            Afterall, we would want people to know that when you play GS you shouldn't go around trying to eliminate AIs before contact with any other Ais so the other AIs never take it into account, wouldn't we?
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            • Originally posted by Sir Ralph
              We could petition to censor it in the Civ4 part of the forum. "Learning, ***** and victory" would sound much heartier, now would it?
              It would be better if it were seven letters, but alas not even proper English can yield the desired result.
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              • improper olde englishe cane yielde thee correcte resulte ife youe gete mye drifte... honoure e
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                • Originally posted by notyoueither
                  Afterall, we would want people to know that when you play GS you shouldn't go around trying to eliminate AIs before contact with any other Ais so the other AIs never take it into account, wouldn't we?
                  "Who? 'The Horde'? What kind of name is that? Never heard of'em... there was a goody hut we stumbled over, yeah, maybe that was it.

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                  • I can set up a team email addy that can be set in the saves so that sending the saves goes automatically for the turn player and from which we can all grab the save.

                    It would have a 100MB limit.

                    The condition would be that no one using it ever send a message from it other than turns and diplomacy. I could get in hot water with an ISP if anyone did anything funny.
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                    • isn't there a team gmail account?
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                      • Not that I know of. A GMail account would be good, but I don't have them.

                        Does GMail work with the SMTP settings built into CIV?

                        We could set it up to forward from the SMTP capable account to a GMail account for the larger storage space.
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                        • Originally posted by Metaliturtle
                          isn't there a team gmail account?
                          Yes there is, and with a password too
                          Its somewhere around here...
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                          • Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                            We could petition to censor it in the Civ4 part of the forum. "Learning, ***** and victory" would sound much heartier, now would it?

                            I prefer "Learning, Sticking-a-4-foot-pitchfork-up-The-Horde's-ass and Victory" to be far more akin to my philosophy in this game.
                            A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                            • Originally posted by nbarclay
                              unless maybe conflicts in the previous game have left such deep wounds that even the most innocuous mention of honor from Gathering Storm would reopen them.
                              Well if anyone were to complain... that'd probably be me. But I'm already on the team so big deal!

                              To me honor isn't being inflexible and rigid regarding our team's actions just so nobody suspects treachery or backstabbing. Honor is standing by the things you sign while at the same time making it perfectly clear that this is a game to win and that each team will do its utmost to achieve victory. No team should have to voluntarily tie its own hands and not do things that others would gladly consider. If we do that, we will lose.

                              I think that the entry is pretty good and sums up the overall team spirit quite well. And I think that given the incidents in the C3CDG, the word "honor" should be all the more relevant and upheld these days.
                              A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                              • Originally posted by NicodaMax


                                Yes there is, and with a password too
                                Its somewhere around here...
                                Where?
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