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  • Originally posted by RobWorham View Post
    Shall we call it a day and declare The Maoris the winners!!!
    I could live with that...
    I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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    • must admit the game has many issues...

      so we finally calling this one? a win for the Moaris....
      Gurka 17, People of the Valley
      I am of the Horde.

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      • Let your every day be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand, let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.
        The BtS Pitboss Team Democracy Game has just started!!!
        Come and test your metal in the Apolyton Civ4 Beyond the Sword Tri-League Tournament
        Tohunga o kairākau of Southern Cross in the Warlords Pitboss Team Democracy Game, and Member of the Great Council and Curator of The Khan's Compendium for The Horde in the Civ4 Team Democracy Game

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        • Originally posted by Paddy View Post
          so we finally calling this one? a win for the Moaris....
          Wait a minute! Aren't you by any chance a vassal from the Maori's, meaning you don't have a say anymore?
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

          SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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          • But he's such a good vassal!

            I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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            • SpamYard team had declare this game ended consequence of the lack of interest that many teams had demonstrated during it. We do not had more intentions of dedicating time to it and this include the host of the game, Astro.

              We are very disappointed with the members of some teams had disappear. We in spamyard team there had been always at least 4 players available and helping.

              We consider that there's had been no winner because he game was still in earlys years of it. So, although some civ had a better performance by now, that still do not guarantee to win this game.

              Just for the record, if you someday take part of a demo/team game, just make sure that you are really planning to play it, at least to show a little of respect to those that had dedicated so many time to it. As Astro had. And if you had or want to leave it, at least take the task of finding someone to replace you.


              Had a nice day.
              Magno of the spamyard team.

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              • Well, if my good ally SY throws the towel in the ring, all I can do is follow suit.
                He who knows others is wise.
                He who knows himself is enlightened.
                -- Lao Tsu

                SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                • Originally posted by Magno_uy View Post
                  SpamYard team had declare this game ended consequence of the lack of interest that many teams had demonstrated during it. We do not had more intentions of dedicating time to it and this include the host of the game, Astro.

                  We are very disappointed with the members of some teams had disappear. We in spamyard team there had been always at least 4 players available and helping.

                  We consider that there's had been no winner because he game was still in earlys years of it. So, although some civ had a better performance by now, that still do not guarantee to win this game.

                  Just for the record, if you someday take part of a demo/team game, just make sure that you are really planning to play it, at least to show a little of respect to those that had dedicated so many time to it. As Astro had. And if you had or want to leave it, at least take the task of finding someone to replace you.


                  Had a nice day.
                  Magno of the spamyard team.
                  Don't be bitter Magno, I think it's inevitable that interest will wane over the course of 3 years (I don't even remember when we started), and it's impossible to demand that people stay for the duration. A lot of things can happen in three years. The fact that we got the wrong size map and a few false starts (not to mention patch troubles) didn't help either. I think it was a good game and I'm not saying that just because the Maoris won
                  I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                  • Originally posted by Zoid View Post
                    Don't be bitter Magno, I think it's inevitable that interest will wane over the course of 3 years (I don't even remember when we started), and it's impossible to demand that people stay for the duration. A lot of things can happen in three years. The fact that we got the wrong size map and a few false starts (not to mention patch troubles) didn't help either. I think it was a good game and I'm not saying that just because the Maoris won
                    Thats kind of a cop out, if teams don't start with multiple turn players who at least plan on sticking around for a few years, then they shouldn't be a team.

                    I had a feeling that the 10 or 11 teams we had was a recipe for disaster, and I was right.

                    And we had people dropping and not playing all along, it didn't just start recently.
                    *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                    • That's kind of elitist? Don't you think? I say that all who want to play should be given the chance. I'd rather have a few people drop out than have games with über-committed Civ nazis who b1tch and moan when people lose interest for one reason or another...
                      I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                      • Originally posted by Zoid View Post
                        That's kind of elitist? Don't you think? I say that all who want to play should be given the chance. I'd rather have a few people drop out than have games with über-committed Civ nazis who b1tch and moan when people lose interest for one reason or another...

                        Now Im a Nazi? OK, great way to reply. Or inother words: "I don't have a good counter arguement so lets resort to name calling"

                        Some of us don't like spending YEARS working on a game and having it end because the people who thought it was a good idea to begin with can't be bothered to satify there initial commitments.

                        This problem could have been easily solved by limiting the number of teams, and concentrating potential turn players on fewer teams.

                        How does that limit people who want to play? So instead of 11 teams having one or maybe two turnplayers, 5 or 6 teams have 3 or 4 turnplayers.......

                        Everyone is still playing

                        Thats all Im going to contribute on this subject, because your attitude is the reason why Demo Games never finish around here, or in most cases even get close.
                        *"Winning is still the goal, and we cannot win if we lose (gawd, that was brilliant - you can quote me on that if you want. And con - I don't want to see that in your sig."- Beta

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                        • Originally posted by conmcb25 View Post
                          Now Im a Nazi? OK, great way to reply. Or inother words: "I don't have a good counter arguement so lets resort to name calling"

                          Some of us don't like spending YEARS working on a game and having it end because the people who thought it was a good idea to begin with can't be bothered to satify there initial commitments.

                          This problem could have been easily solved by limiting the number of teams, and concentrating potential turn players on fewer teams.

                          How does that limit people who want to play? So instead of 11 teams having one or maybe two turnplayers, 5 or 6 teams have 3 or 4 turnplayers.......

                          Everyone is still playing

                          Thats all Im going to contribute on this subject, because your attitude is the reason why Demo Games never finish around here, or in most cases even get close.
                          Meh, I'm just tired of whiners that whine when the other kids don't want to play anymore...
                          I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                          • Oh well, thanks everyone for playing and making the effort.

                            Special thanks to Astro for hosting and all the baggage that goes with that commitment.

                            It was fun while it lasted........
                            Let your every day be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand, let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.
                            The BtS Pitboss Team Democracy Game has just started!!!
                            Come and test your metal in the Apolyton Civ4 Beyond the Sword Tri-League Tournament
                            Tohunga o kairākau of Southern Cross in the Warlords Pitboss Team Democracy Game, and Member of the Great Council and Curator of The Khan's Compendium for The Horde in the Civ4 Team Democracy Game

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                            • If this game is over - well thanks everyone who played this far.

                              And Astro - a big and to you.

                              Thanks for being a brilliant host.
                              I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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                              • Originally posted by Nugog View Post
                                If this game is over - well thanks everyone who played this far.

                                And Astro - a big and to you.

                                Thanks for being a brilliant host.
                                Thankyou It was for me a pleasure to host this game

                                I would like to give some personal thoughts about DG games (I've yet played some in this forum) :

                                The paces of those DG are too slow and tend to naturally kill the games, because increasingly lack of interest, players quitting, etc. For me, the ideal pace is 1 turn/24 hours, set automatically to 48 hours/turn in case of wars (with a dedicated mod which shorts the remain time when the first team at war has played) . In this manner, games last about 1 and a half year (It's my experience with individual multiplayer pitboss games).

                                The teams should be formed only by guys who are close between. It better garantees long term playing. Only few known and serious teams should be admitted to play.

                                For DG games, only pangea (or close to pangea) maps should be taken, because more wars and more interest : the map chosen for this C4WDG was clearly a mistake.

                                And finally, thanks to you, guys, who have played the game until this unfortunate end
                                Hosting and playing the Civ4BtS APT
                                Ex-Organizador y jugador de Civ4BtS Progressive Games

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