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  • Since Banana can begin Guilds in 3 turns does that mean Feudalism will be available then?

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    • Yes, I presume so.

      Regarding maps, I don't think we should trade maps with anyone. We have mapped out most of the world and are finishing off the last coastline now. No one is close to us on the maps front. If we trade with one person then they can sell that information on. Not that we'd phrase it like that to Banana though. Maybe we should just ignore that point in our next email to them.

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      • follow from Banana ...

        Just a quick follow-up. How do you intend to begin research on Nationalism? Are you working out a trade for Philo with PAL? Or are you going for Divine Right first?

        Let me know...thanks!
        Quote: "All Happiness is the release of internal pressure"
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        • btw. Banana accepted Engineering.
          As for an answer:
          PAL refuses us Philo, so we will research it the hard way.
          mh

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          • Here's a draft:

            Dear Team Banana,

            Thanks for the info on PAL. We had hoped to trade philosophy from them but they don't want to trade it for engineering, so we will self-research it. We think we will be slower to nationalism than you will be to guilds - we'll give you a more accurate date as we get closer.

            We will make sure we give you horses for a while when you get guilds since you provided us with iron when we needed it. We agree that we will talk more about this closer to the time.

            Our "espionage guy" says its fine to spend the points on us to see our demographics and he expected you would.

            Realms Beyond

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            • good - I like it that this email makes it seem that we have dedicated resources to each component of the game (which we do).
              Quote: "All Happiness is the release of internal pressure"
              Visit my Civ IV web site for information on mods that I am involved with or use and other Civ IV tools
              woo hoo! My wife publishes her first book. Buy it now in paperback format at lulu and help me retire so I can write more BUG mod code.

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              • We don't want to mention Feud? Is it just understood that they will send it?

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                • @sunrise - I think it's understood, we've mentioned it a couple of times in the last few e-mails, so I don't think it needs to be said again at this point.

                  I like the draft.

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                  • Soooo's draft sounds good.

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                    • Edited to communicate our uncertaincy over philosophy:

                      Dear Team Banana,

                      Thanks for the info on PAL. We had hoped to trade philosophy from them but they don't seem to want engineering right now. We are still negotiating while running 0% science and may make the trade, or we could lightbulb the tech or self-research it. We think we will be slower to nationalism than you will be to guilds - we'll give you a more accurate date as we get closer.

                      We will make sure we give you horses for a while when you get guilds since you provided us with iron when we needed it. We agree that we will talk more about this closer to the time.

                      Our "espionage guy" says its fine to spend the points on us to see our demographics and he expected you would.

                      Realms Beyond
                      If no objections I will send this out later today.

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                      • You can modify the last line to say:
                        "Our "espionage guy" says that 43EPT is the optimal value for each of us to have on the other to see demographics. So you can get your EPT on us to that value, and we will also spend a couple to get there."

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                        • Second draft.

                          Dear Team Banana,

                          Thanks for the info on PAL. We had hoped to trade philosophy from them but they turned down our initial offer. We are still negotiating while running 0% science and may make the trade, or we could lightbulb the tech or self-research it. We think we will be slower to nationalism than you will be to guilds - we'll give you a more accurate date as we get closer.

                          We will make sure we give you horses for a while when you get guilds since you provided us with iron when we needed it. We agree that we will talk more about this closer to the time.

                          Our "espionage guy" says it's fine to spend the points on us and he expected you would. He says that 43EPT is the optimal value for each of us to have on the other to see demographics. So you can get your EPT on us to that value, and we will also spend a couple to get there.

                          Realms Beyond

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                          • Cool.

                            mh

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                            • Looks good!

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                              • Email sent.

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