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  • Looks like they are downplaying their lead.
    Their land does have rivers, one is clearly visible north of The Warning. The Warning it self must be a quite good spot. Just look at all the infrastructure they built there.

    mh

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    • PAL is full of bull. Based on early game C&D spying of their Food/Production totals, they started with a water resource, and likely a fish tile. Add that to their multiple floodplains tiles at the start, and they have a damn good capital. Certainly better than ours!

      Everything they said in that conversation was spinning of one sort or another. Based on the comments they made, it's even likely that Imperio's whole "you have the most cities!" shtick was prompted by PAL. While it's obvious that PAL is the runaway team, they've done a good job of convincing the others that we are the biggest threat, based on one particular stat, city count.

      Although we should keep the lines of communication open, I think we're done dealing with PAL unless they're willing to make some kind of concession to us. Supplying Imperio with ivory and not our team is *NOT* balanced or even!

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      • Hi,

        Originally posted by Sullla View Post
        While it's obvious that PAL is the runaway team, they've done a good job of convincing the others that we are the biggest threat
        Yep. That's exactly what I meant some time ago when I said we failed at diplomacy in this game.

        But the game's not over yet, so let's see what RB will be able to pull out of the hat!

        -Kylearan

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        • It may be worth asking PAL for a deal for Optics.

          How about:

          Dear PAL,

          We were glad to talk to you in-game a few days ago. We cleared up some misunderstandings and hopefully our relationship can recover.

          Working to the future, we noticed your caravel and assume you will gain the circumnavigation bonus. Congratulations! Once this is secured for you we would like to collect optics from you. We have drama to provide you in return. Could we sort out a drama+cash for optics deal?

          Cheers,

          Realms Beyond.

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          • Worth a try.

            mh

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            • Email sent.

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              • Updates on PAL: Last turn they built the Kong Miao and MoM. On turn 600 they converted to christianity. I sent them a reminder over our proposed trade but no reply

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                • Can we start sending cheeky emails to PAL now?

                  Hi PAL,

                  You forgot about us! Can we be a part of your grand alliance too? Go on ... we could help you against those rabbits who are a threat to us all!



                  Team RB

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                  • very funny, but where did you hear about this alliance?
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                    • From our bestest friend in the whole wide world ... Sir Aidun!

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                      • Dude...they made another Wallace & Grommit? How could I have missed that.

                        Darrell

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                        • From the amusing revelation that PAL lack Iron, I checked if curassiers need iron and they do. Hold on rabbits for as long as you can!

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                          • Originally posted by sooooo View Post
                            From the amusing revelation that PAL lack Iron, I checked if curassiers need iron and they do. Hold on rabbits for as long as you can!
                            I just did the same. No Curassiers!

                            Might as well, start talking to Rabbits again.

                            mh

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                            • Did we ever encounter an exploring PAL WB round Rabbit's north coast? I wonder if PAL hasn't realised the significance of the name of Rabbits' city, Eisenburg?

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                              • No, but I'd doubt very much if PAL don't know where rabbits' iron is.

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