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  • #61
    I'd like to have at least a dedicated diplomat who would conduct negotiations with other teams.

    Later in the game, we might also need people in charge of specific aspects of micromanagement (military, micromanagement, great people strategy, etc.) Overall, SG-like format seems best at running things smoothly, but I am fine with any team structure.

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    • #62
      I've never really gotten the whole Demogame "thing", where individuals will adapt certain roles and then pretend to act out their in-game interests. From watching the CivFanatics demogames, at times this gets almost comically silly. I'd personally be much more comfortable with the succession game format: one person playing the turns, with a number of others looking at the saves and offering comments/suggestions. That seems like a more productive avenue to me.

      We may well want to have different individuals focus on certain areas, of course. The notion of tagging one team member to focus on diplomacy and write messages to the other teams sounds like an excellent suggestion.

      Another related question: I don't know most of these Apolyton players on the other teams. Does anyone here know them by reputation (?) The Gathering Storm team that dropped out had some pretty well-known MP guys, for example. This might help us to figure out playing tendencies/likely strategies, and who's likely to be the most dangerous longterm. (Quick example: I'm extremely unimpressed by this Rob guy. He seems to be 95% talk, 5% action. )

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      • #63
        As to role playing, I'd like us to make a tounge -in-cheek nod in that direction by employing Orwell's 1984 ministries on an occasional basis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninetee...ies_of_Oceania

        For example, when making a public post, sign off as username, RB Minister for Truth; in private diplomacy, Minister for Peace, etc.

        What do you guys think?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Swiss Pauli
          As to role playing, I'd like us to make a tounge -in-cheek nod in that direction by employing Orwell's 1984 ministries on an occasional basis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninetee...ies_of_Oceania

          For example, when making a public post, sign off as username, RB Minister for Truth; in private diplomacy, Minister for Peace, etc.

          What do you guys think?
          Sounds like an exellent idea, Comrade.

          Zeviz,
          Minister of Plenty
          (Where is that :whipped: posticon when you need it? )

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          • #65
            Any suggestions / volunteers for the diplomat?
            I always like Kylearan way of working the AIs, but I think he won't have much time? (hint, hint, any good news yet?)

            mh

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            • #66
              Is uberfish around? He's a diplomacy master. If you want to have no chance of winning diplomatic victory, nominate me .

              Darrell

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              • #67
                Any comment I'd make would surely advance the aims of our adversaries.

                -Minister of Intelligence

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                • #68
                  1984?

                  Sorry for my apparently "not-here"-edness. I got lost in the discussion a while back and had neglected to keep up until now, but I'm here and ready to offer my (lowly) expertise wherever needed.

                  By the way...

                  Our team has two Big Brothers

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                  • #69
                    Well I guess we need to divide ourselves into 1 Inner Party member, 2-3 Outer Party Members, and the remained proles.

                    So long as I don't have to join the Junior Anti-Sex League, I'm happy with any of the above

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Kodii
                      ...

                      Our team has two Big Brothers
                      There is only one Big Brother. You are just seeing double.

                      Zeviz,
                      Minister of Truth

                      More seriously, Rob started treating me as co-leader when I was substituting for Swiss a couple weeks ago. I didn't even notice that he promoted me on the roster until you pointed it out.

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                      • #71
                        Hi,

                        Originally posted by mostly-harmless
                        I always like Kylearan way of working the AIs, but I think he won't have much time? (hint, hint, any good news yet?)
                        No good news yet, but it can happen any day now (it will happen next week one way or another, as my wife is not allowed to overcarry).

                        I don't think I'm very good at diplomacy. Especially, I think this should be a position for a native speaker who does not miss semantic nuances, hidden meanings etc.

                        -Kylearan

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Kylearan
                          (it will happen next week one way or another
                          The best of luck to you three. It will change everything. We will let you know in 2 years time how this demogame went.

                          mh

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                          • #73
                            All this really belongs in the General Discossuion thread, but so long as we don't pollute the strategy and turn thread I don't mind.

                            Originally posted by Kodii
                            1984?

                            By the way...

                            Our team has two Big Brothers
                            There were always two big brothers, even when there was only one. That's the beauty of Doublethink.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Zeviz
                              I'd like to have at least a dedicated diplomat who would conduct negotiations with other teams.
                              Do we have a volenteer for this post yet? If not, I'd like to do it.

                              Re playing a character - I think this is important when communicating with the other team - it helps with consistency. Do we know our leader yet? We could play it staight up and down based on who that is (ie Play Louis XIV - SunGod as worried about his people becoming decadent while he himself likes to trade wheat for gems, etc). Little inconsistencies and off topic stories that leaders might swap would be good to throw in too.

                              BTW - are these communications between leaders or between leader's lackies?

                              Ruff
                              Quote: "All Happiness is the release of internal pressure"
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                              • #75
                                Another related question: I don't know most of these Apolyton players on the other teams. Does anyone here know them by reputation (?) The Gathering Storm team that dropped out had some pretty well-known MP guys, for example. This might help us to figure out playing tendencies/likely strategies, and who's likely to be the most dangerous longterm. (Quick example: I'm extremely unimpressed by this Rob guy. He seems to be 95% talk, 5% action. )
                                Bumped for potential discussion.

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