Disputes Thread

[theViking]

When you wrote this I assumed it meant you wanted to discontinue the game too. But another rabbit turn has been played - I'm confused.

Don't be confused, I just wanted to test something.

[Krill]

Con, Templars can do it one of two ways. Either open your forum willinglyso everyone can view it, or I'll write a very thorough history of how you played the game. With quotes, and with pictures. Either way anything and everything important is going to be made public.

[conmcb25]

Con, Templars can do it one of two ways. Either open your forum willinglyso everyone can view it, or I'll write a very thorough history of how you played the game. With quotes, and with pictures. Either way anything and everything important is going to be made public.

Interesting

[GeoModder]

A historian putting a knife on the throat.

[Krill]

Oh and Con, something I forgot to mention.

I saved all of the important threads in your forum to my PC before I posted that.

So congrats on wasting an hour editing every single one of your posts in the private forum

[Zoid]

You can run, but you can't hide...

[sooooo]

So congrats on wasting an hour editing every single one of your posts in the private forum

That's hilarious.

[Krill]

Is everyone else willing to open their forum?

Really I think that only extends to Rabbits, PAL never used their private forum here, Banana didn't for most of the gme either, and Imperios is entirely in spanish.

[GeoModder]

How do you compile a history of the game if half the teams didn't use their forums, or is unreadable for non-Spanish speakers?

[Krill]

Pictures and a lot of tactical knowledge about the game. Can't always comment on the team dynamic, but it is possible to comment on what choices each team made, how well it turned out and what the final effect was.

[Keygen]

Con, Templars can do it one of two ways. Either open your forum willinglyso everyone can view it, or I'll write a very thorough history of how you played the game. With quotes, and with pictures. Either way anything and everything important is going to be made public.

Oh and Con, something I forgot to mention.

I saved all of the important threads in your forum to my PC before I posted that.

So congrats on wasting an hour editing every single one of your posts in the private forum

A private forum is private for a reason, otherwise it would be public from the very start, why do you fail to understand that people? If the members of a private forum do not wish to turn it into a public one you should respect it.

Further more Krill, taking advantage of your access privilege to extort a fellow player do something against his will could lead to revocation of your privilege and get you banned.

If you have a serious reason to want a private forum to be turned into public despite the refusal of the members of that forum you should bring it to the attention of the administration of this site instead of threatening and mocking.

[Robert]

I have been approached by some about this issue.
I am not in the position to make a judgement about your game though!

Two general comments from me though;
Apolyton has a rule that no one is allowed to publish parts of private conversations against the will of the author. An exception to this rule can be made when for a specific game different rules have been made.

In example, our Diplo Game has the rule that we all keep an anonymous identity in the game. Nobody knows which civ I play. We delete all posts that may reveal the idenity of a player.
Thus in our Diplo Game we delete posts that are not supposed to be deleted according to the be deleted according to the rules of Apolyton.

Thus, please investigate if the rules of your game say that private posts about this game should be published when the game is done. If these rules say so (and everybody could be aware of that), please follow the rules of the game.
If there is not such a rule, please follow the rules of Apolyton.

I know that everybody can in the heat of the moment be tricked in a painful discussion. I've been there. Please all try to stay cool and find a solution that suits everybody and helps all of you to enjoy a new game in the future!
If you can't find a solution, may I suggest you to find 3 independant judges, ie. OzzyKP, Jeroen Schweitzer and Ming, and ask them to make a final verdict. Only do that if you all agree in advance to accept their verdict. Only a suggestion.

Good luck and thanks for organising this great game on Apolyton!

Robert

[Krill]

A private forum is private for a reason, otherwise it would be public from the very start, why do you fail to understand that people? If the members of a private forum do not wish to turn it into a public one you should respect it.

No, a private forum in a demogame is a private forum so that infomation stays hidden during the game. Once the game is finished, there is no reason for them to stay private. Technically speaking, according to forum rules, flaming in a private forum is punishable exactly the same to flaming in public forums, so if the given reason is to keep insults and such hidden, admins such as you aren't enforcing the forum rules, in fact are encouraging them by allowing them to be kept hidden and said behind other players backs.

Further more Krill, taking advantage of your access privilege to extort a fellow player do something against his will could lead to revocation of your privilege and get you banned.

I am the game historian, as agreed upon by all teams and their members prior to the start of the game. It was agreed that I would write the history for this game upon completion. To do that I require the threads in the private forum, and I saved them to avoid tampering such as Con just did, in an attempt to go back on his and his teams agreement to have the history published.

Turns out it was pretty smart.

If you have a serious reason to want a private forum to be turned into public despite the refusal of the members of that forum you should bring it to the attention of the administration of this site instead of threatening and mocking.

Go back and reread what I said. Either or, mate. If anything, Con is being twofaced by originally agreeing to a written history, and then when given the option of keeping the forum closed, but with knowledge that his teams **** ups (and yes, teactically, strategically, **** ups is a good description) being made public knowledge, he was petty minded enough to go and edit every single one of his posts into a smiley face.

Also, I did PM Cybershy earlier about these forums being openned. I have yet to hear a reply.

[Krill]

I have been approached by some about this issue.
I am not in the position to make a judgement about your game though!

Two general comments from me though;
Apolyton has a rule that no one is allowed to publish parts of private conversations against the will of the author. An exception to this rule can be made when for a specific game different rules have been made.

Thus, please investigate if the rules of your game say that private posts about this game should be published when the game is done. If these rules say so (and everybody could be aware of that), please follow the rules of the game.
If there is not such a rule, please follow the rules of Apolyton.

I know that everybody can in the heat of the moment be tricked in a painful discussion. I've been there. Please all try to stay cool and find a solution that suits everybody and helps all of you to enjoy a new game in the future!
If you can't find a solution, may I suggest you to find 3 independant judges, ie. OzzyKP, Jeroen Schweitzer and Ming, and ask them to make a final verdict. Only do that if you all agree in advance to accept their verdict. Only a suggestion.

Good luck and thanks for organising this great game on Apolyton!

Robert

I'm the game admin, responsible for the legislation, interpretation, enforcement of such rules. All teams accepted my judgement as binding according to post 93 in this here thread, and I am requesting as game admin that all forums be opened.

[Krill]

Actually, I'll add a caveat to that. Certain threads (containing some semi-private and private infomation) I can give links to the mods to delete. That should help smooth over some of the reasons for the private/public debate.

If anyone wants to help me out in that and pm me links to particular threads that they think should be deleted (or failing that certain posts) then I'm more than happy to spend tomorrow vetting each forum.

Krill