Disputes Thread

[sooooo]

I must say that the willingness to continue beating a dead horse, wether it is in DG's or pitboss games continue to amaze me. It's like we only have a limited number of games available to us and we must suck everyone of them utterly dry...

Well, you seem to be a member of rabbits, so you have the opportunity to do something about it don't you?

[Donovan Zoi]

The only reason I am continuing to play is because I don't want the Banana team to be taken over by the AI. I have already mentioned how unsatisfying it is strategizing against the wax figures that have replaced our enemy in the battlefield.

So I will will officially vote on behalf of banana to discontinue the game. That way, both Team RB and Rabbits would need to record team votes in favor of keeping the game alive in order for me to stay involved here.

Let's solve this one way or another.

[RobWorham]

The Rabbits are currently addressing this issue in our private forum and will post a team decision in the next few days.

[mostly-harmless]

... next few days.

Like this issue has not been apparent for a couple of weeks already?

What do you do form committees and stuff?

mh

[RobWorham]

What Rabbits do in private is not the stuff for general consumption.........

We have time honoured reputations to uphold don't you know!!!

[Zoid]

Well, you seem to be a member of rabbits, so you have the opportunity to do something about it don't you?

I don't really care either way, I lost interest in this game long ago. It was just a sideline remark stemming from several games with dead horse beating I've been in...

[theViking]

I don't really care either way, I lost interest in this game long ago. It was just a sideline remark stemming from several games with dead horse beating I've been in...

OK,some of us had other ideas.

[Donovan Zoi]

Another thought: once Imperio is conquered and PAL is converted to AI, the game should move along much faster. I know that Rabbits and I can knock out turns pretty fast, and I am sure RB could too.

On the flipside, the sooner we end this game, the sooner we can set up the next one...

[theViking]

Another thought: once Imperio is conquered and PAL is converted to AI, the game should move along much faster. I know that Rabbits and I can knock out turns pretty fast, and I am sure RB could too.

On the flipside, the sooner we end this game, the sooner we can set up the next one...

[theViking]

The rabbits has gone back to do what they can do best.

[conmcb25]

BTW, when the game finishes I assume the teams' forums will be opened?

Nope

Templars will not agree to opening our forums to the general public.

If you want to know what went on in our forums, then you should have been a Templar

[Sullla]

With all due respect, why is that? The only people who are ever going to care about what happened in this game are the three dozen or so folks who participated in it. And for our small group of six teams, we would all dearly like to know how and why decisions were made. Withholding information from the other teams seems rather spiteful, in all honesty. I mean, this isn't exactly the Cuban Missile Crisis. I can't imagine that there's anything in the private forums that's so ultra-secret that it can't possibly be released to the general community. It's just a game of Civilization.

We at Realms Beyond have been looking forward to reading through all of the team forums when the game closes. There's a genuine desire to know what happened in the Demogame, and we'll forever remain in ignorance if the individual team forums remain closed. I would like to politely ask the Templars to change their stance. Openness and free disclosure of information should be a hallmark of these games. (At CivFanatics, the forums are always opened after the Demogames conclude, for example.) We certainly plan to open up our forums to anyone and everyone who is interested in reading them.

[ChrisiusMaximus]

With all due respect, why is that? The only people who are ever going to care about what happened in this game are the three dozen or so folks who participated in it. And for our small group of six teams, we would all dearly like to know how and why decisions were made. Withholding information from the other teams seems rather spiteful, in all honesty. I mean, this isn't exactly the Cuban Missile Crisis. I can't imagine that there's anything in the private forums that's so ultra-secret that it can't possibly be released to the general community. It's just a game of Civilization.

We at Realms Beyond have been looking forward to reading through all of the team forums when the game closes. There's a genuine desire to know what happened in the Demogame, and we'll forever remain in ignorance if the individual team forums remain closed. I would like to politely ask the Templars to change their stance. Openness and free disclosure of information should be a hallmark of these games. (At CivFanatics, the forums are always opened after the Demogames conclude, for example.) We certainly plan to open up our forums to anyone and everyone who is interested in reading them.

The only reason is they would likely not want you to be offended by all the trash talk they like to make about their betters in these games, it is standard behaviour for the core of that team !

[sooooo]

The rabbits has gone back to do what they can do best.

When you wrote this I assumed it meant you wanted to discontinue the game too. But another rabbit turn has been played - I'm confused.

Let's just open the forums - no one will take any offence I'm sure. If anyone has written "RB are landgrabbing idiots!" or "Will Templars just shut up about that border agreement?" then no one is going to be offended. It's not a personal attack, just a critique of a civ playing style. We're all grown-ups here, we can all take criticism, let's just enjoy reading the other teams' threads. I'm sure other teams want to read the other forums too. It's just a game anyway .

If you want to know what went on in our forums, then you should have been a Templar

This is not a logical argument

[Sullla]

The only reason is they would likely not want you to be offended by all the trash talk they like to make about their betters in these games, it is standard behaviour for the core of that team !

Is this all? I know I've probably called all five teams a bunch of idiots (or worse!) at some point in time in the past year. Usually when they refused to do what we wanted them to do. But we're all grownups here, I'm sure no one will be upset over what went on in the heat of the game.

If I go and play a game of pickup basketball with my friends, I don't freak out if there are some elbows thrown or some heated words exchanged. It happens. But when the game's over, we go have a drink and enjoy shooting the breeze over what took place. I think the Demogame should work the same way, and we'll all enjoy it more.

EDIT: cross-posted with sooooo with a nearly-identical message.