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  • #76
    Originally posted by Dominae

    Time for you to move up a notch in the difficulty scale...


    Hey, buster! I've still got to attain victories as the Arabs, Germans, Indians, Aztecs, English, Egyptians, Zulu, Koreans, Americans, Celts and Carthaginians... but THEN I'll move up! And then I'll... I'll.. be BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! YEAH!!! THAT'S IT!!!

    Of course, by the time that happens, I might have another eight civs to win as...
    You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!

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    • #77
      Yahweh, you could just play those remaining civs at a higher difficulty level. It might be more fun. Just a suggestion.


      Dominae
      And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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      • #78
        Originally posted by statusperfect

        Sipahi? Panzers?

        cheers
        Umh. I think the AI Legions and Immortals are more dangerous to me than the Sipahi and Panzers. By the time the Sipahi arrives my defences, production and diplomacy will be in order and I should have the resources to deal with the situation. I have not always sorted myself out by the time the legions or Immortals arrive on my borders so that can get ugly.

        If I were playing against a human opponent the sipahi and panzers may well be more dangerous, I don't know having never played MP.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Yahweh Sabaoth


          Hey, buster! I've still got to attain victories as the Arabs, Germans, Indians, Aztecs, English, Egyptians, Zulu, Koreans, Americans, Celts and Carthaginians... but THEN I'll move up! And then I'll... I'll.. be BETTER THAN YOU ALL!!! YEAH!!! THAT'S IT!!!

          Of course, by the time that happens, I might have another eight civs to win as...
          YS,

          Dominae has a good point. You should go up a level. If you finish all the remaining civs at Regent, then start again at Monarch, then at Emperor, by the time you'll be through we will all be playing Civ5
          The Mountain Sage of the Swiss Alps

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Mountain Sage
            Dominae has a good point. You should go up a level. If you finish all the remaining civs at Regent, then start again at Monarch, then at Emperor, by the time you'll be through we will all be playing Civ5
            You guys are probably right. I'm playing as the Arabs right now, and I sort of feel like, "Wow, I've played this game already 5 times now..." especially since my land doesn't allow for full use of the Ansar...

            ...still, I'm a purist. A few more games at least. I might skip the Aztecs - I've already won as them in "vanilla" Civ.
            You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!

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            • #81
              Play at whichever level you find fun, and whichever style you find fun.

              That's my approach. Some people find it fun to play at high difficulty and really strain for the win. Others don't. I play on Monarch not because I can't win on Emperor, but because I don't enjoy Emperor. I'd rather play for UP on Monarch than just play to win on Emperor. I like winning BIG. I could win BIG on Chieftain every time, but that isn't fun for me. Neither is Warlord or Regent. Nope, for whatever reason, Monarch is the place for me, at least for now.

              So play whereever and however you want. [/soapbox]

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #82
                Thanks, Arrian.

                You guys are always going to be better than me - by the time I hit Emperor or Diety "Conquests"'ll be out, and then it's sort of back to the drawing board... I'm happy to be the guy who (hopefully) asks good questions and starts interesting threads around here...

                But mark my words, my old Civ2 best score was 732% and I won't stop playing this damn game until I can win Deity, every time.

                You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!

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                • #83
                  Yahweh,

                  Did you ever try the Europe Map that came with CivII Gold? It was HUGE for a CivII map (mostly land). The scores you could rack up were silly. My best: 1642% (Deity). But then again, one that map you knew where everybody was, you had tons of room, and I played it over and over trying to top my score (and competing with a good friend, who eventually cracked 1700%).

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #84
                    Holy crud. Maybe I never will be as good as you guys.

                    1642%? That's freaking insane! My score was from large world, 7 opponents, Deity level, maybe "restless" barbarians (raging is just too irritating for me).

                    I also never got Civ2 Gold. The Europe map was bigger than a "large" map?

                    I did play the Europe map that came with Civ2: Scenarios quite a bit... remember that one spot in "Bulgaria" that had the perfect city placement?

                    Ah, but I digress...
                    You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Arrian
                      Play at whichever level you find fun, and whichever style you find fun.
                      I would like to get one thing straight: I'm not criticizing anyone for playing at their chosen level of difficulty (ok, I would probably criticize if someone enjoyed played at Chieftain and posted here regularly!).

                      My purpose in pushing people to go up a difficulty-notch is twofold: 1) I want people to get better (AU, yeah!), 2) as much possible, I do not want strategy talk to be tainted by the differences in difficulty level.

                      I know this second hope is somewhat unrealisitc; early warmongering is just really hard on Deity. But in the Regent to Emperor range, I believe certain strategies are constant. But sometimes people's "arguments" for their personal strategy come out of a expectation how games are supposed to play out. And so comments like: "the Industrial age is not important because I always seal up the game with Cavalry", or "I never build the Pyramids because I can just capture it", or even "I always go for a Science city (requiring, The Colossus, Copernicus', Newton's, etc.), are no so much strategic advice as reports as to how your games play out at the difficulty level you play on. I have no problem if anyone derives enjoyment from these types of games (I certainly like to seal things up before the Industrial!), but it's misleading to label them as "strategy".

                      Regent strategy is different from Deity strategy. And some things are good strategy at all difficulties (for instance, good FP placement). I think it's important to make the difference between strategy that is only applicable at a certain level of difficulty, and strategy that is applicable across levels. The clearest example is tech: on Emperor you can (still) do quite well just buying techs from the leaders, while on Regent you're better off doing your own research.


                      Dominae
                      Last edited by Dominae; May 16, 2003, 11:47.
                      And her eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming...

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Yahweh Sabaoth
                        Holy crud. Maybe I never will be as good as you guys.

                        1642%? That's freaking insane! My score was from large world, 7 opponents, Deity level, maybe "restless" barbarians (raging is just too irritating for me).

                        I also never got Civ2 Gold. The Europe map was bigger than a "large" map?

                        I did play the Europe map that came with Civ2: Scenarios quite a bit... remember that one spot in "Bulgaria" that had the perfect city placement?

                        Ah, but I digress...
                        The Europe map was used in a scenario or two, but you could fire up a normal game on it. Yeah, it was bigger than the regular large maps, because of the ratio of land to water. Let me put it this way: I hit the city limit and started moving cities that could "only" get to 20 pop to better spots so I could get them up to more like 30. I cut down the entire Siberian forest, and terraformed it all to grassland. Alps? Gone. The Northern Sahara was all grassland. I had started in on the Himalayas when I ran out of time.

                        It was mainly a function of four things:

                        1) The sheer size of the land mass
                        2) My discovery of the power of Caravans to boost wonder production (I never did use food caravans, though)
                        3) "We Love the President Day"
                        4) Spies. Why fight when you can buy the other guy's empire?

                        -Arrian
                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #87
                          ah yes... spies were too powerful, but the terraforming option is sorely missed...
                          You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!

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                          • #88
                            Oh, and Dominae, points taken.

                            -Arrian
                            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                            • #89
                              hi ,

                              looks like there are eight new UU on the way , .....

                              screenshots of some can be found here > http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...20#post2004424

                              lets hope there is a new one for the modern age

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                              • #90
                                Also slightly off topic:
                                To me, the most entertaining unit (not UU) is the fighter, followed by the jet fighter, at any time there is an interception. Haven't seen the F-15 in action in some time.

                                Whether I am intercepting a bomber or being intercepted, whether I win or I lose - I AM entertained!

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