1st Apolyton CIV3 TOURNAMENT : 15-30/November/2001

[Aeson]

4 turn mod'd *don't count cause its cheating* conquest

Before anyone calls me a cheater, I didn't reload once! Hey, none of my cities were size 214... 25 Attack 25 Defense 100 Movement Bowmen (treats all squares as road) make Babylon pretty tough.. haha. Especially when paired with 25 food 25 shield 25 commerce terrain. On a side note, I actually almost lost a battle to a warrior on grassland! That would've been hillarious. Now I gotta go edit my high scores, never going to beat (legitimately) 17840 or whatever it was...

ps. just in case anyone missed it, I do consider this cheating and was just doing it for laughs :P

[Aeson]

Originally posted by Tilemacho
*…actually the real population of my country was 220 millions and Babylons size 31 until last turn when I used all my slave workers to add to Babylons size…..I only did this to see how many workers I had but turned out to be pretty impressive…

Nice trick! How many points did that extra 200 million add to your score? Just curious..

[Tilemacho]

I think almost nothing because I did it in the last turn...but I suppose that if I had done this 20 turns earlier it would have some effect...
BTW I don't think score depents on population as is in the stats but in the number of citisens... and this trick only added about 180 new specialists...

[HatchetMan]

Domination, 1325 AD. 4033pts,
Agree, randomturn; No save/reload of course...

[philler]

when's the next tournament?

I won't even post my savegame.

I started a week ago and didn't have time to play much.

So I'm in year 1000 AD or so and my score is also around 1000. Not even worth posting.

so, WHEN DOES THE NEXT TOURNAMENT BEGIN?

[philler]

apparently, it's here. I'll look into it tomorrow.

[Milou]

Space - 1826AD - 2251pts A day late and a few dollars short. . .

[Eli]

Where's the thread with the winners?

[cgrecu]

Re: tournament rules, and fun

[QUOTE] Originally posted by Psyringe
My two cents about which rules should be specified for the Apolyton tournament and why ... feedback is welcome.


Sidenote to cgrecu: You argued:
> 1.It is impossible to be sure that the tactis was
> used, just by looking at th saved game.


The thing about trust is that it never works.It's ilke that saying with the drop of ink in abottle of water... Even if 99% of the players play by the rules and it's still not enough.
And do we do if all people have 2-3000 points and 3 or 4 have 5-6000 points, do we say "hey these people are obviously cheating".We would most likely be right, but everybody is innocent until proven guilty, and since we can't have any prove, it is useless.
Of course , there are always bugs and some can even edit he saved game (although this is not something that everybody can do).The only thing about these kind of things is that they can lead to unreasonable scores.So the best we can do is to keep the game scores secret, so these people don't know what score should they "do", and they may go beyond reasonable.
I know it's not the soultion.
The only people that could come with a soultion are the developpers, they could save in the game's history some statistics (like to save all battles and for each turn to save the money and other variables).This way it would be harder to cheat, if not impossible.

[jimb0v2]

its a noble thought cgrecu, and I totally agree with your view on cheating. I've decided just to give up though. It doesn't matter. There is absolutely no possible way to stop cheating. Even if the developers had large ammounts of security measures to do so. Any information on someones own harddrive that is not going through a server is not protecteable at all. They can always change it however they want, and theres nothing you can do. Hell, the industry can't even stop cheating when there is a server-client relationship. Theres no way some good intentioned optimistic civ3 players can either. This argument of stopping cheating is futile.

[MarkG]

first 14 out of 63

first three pages of the thread covered...

name	type	year	score
ixnay37	diplomatic	1882	1528
mrknightly	domination	1430	3931
Frank Johnson	space	1878	1906
gus_smedstad	domination	1764	2548
Gaius Marius	cultural	1870	3046
albiedamned	space	1760	1784
photar74	cultural	1820	3769
Ghengis Thom	domination	1868	2210
Roland Ehnström	space	1796	2464
Out4Blood	space	2050	5513
Aeson	conquest	610	5560
Zaphod	diplomatic	1764	2160
Ahlyis	cultural	1762	3034
Frito	diplomatic	1730	2230

[Tilemacho]

Hey Markos maybe someone could help you to finish this job....???

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Tilemacho
Hey Markos maybe someone could help you to finish this job....???

maybe?

[BurnPoodle]

When will we get the results of the submissions?

will there be a chart or something&?

[Comrade Tribune]

Markos, do you still plan to declare some kind of, uh, results for this tournament?