Roleplay Team

[Togas]

I have an idea, and if anyone is interested in joining a team like this, please post in the thread. I'll do what I can to help get the team organized but I'm not sure that I can actively participate in PTW until late November.

Team Concepts:
1) Use one of the new Civs.
2) Roleplay government form, technological advances, etc, as much as possible.

We begin as a tribe who choses a supreme leader. We will have no Constitution, no elections, no laws other than mob rule and the ability to back one person from the tribe (or overthrow that person) to be our Despot. The Despot makes all the rules, picks his advisors, etc. If we change to Monarchy, the Despot becomes King and the participants become Nobles. If we change to Republic, we all become Senators and actively change our government and procedures accordingly. Etc.

We would not make maps until mapmaking is learned. We would not send other nations messages until writing is developed. We would model our religion around our current religious tech. Etc.

If anyone is intersted in this idea, please post here. I know it's not as democractic as others, but it might be a heck of a lot of fun.

--Togas

ADDED:

People who are a part of this team:
Togas
Godking
jdjdjd
adaMada
F-Pro
Nuclear Winter
Ninot
ruby_maser
Arnelos
mrmitchell
Davout
GeneralTacticus
Palisol
oliverfa
Crousto
astrologix
History Guy
Thud

People who might later join this team:
Mr.WhereItsAt
realpolitic

[Thud]

I like this. At first glance, it might look kinda like it's impossible for any civ like this to be succesful and for the game to be fun. However, if you think about it, for the time we're in Despotism, we really don't need committees and ministers and so forth. All of it can be done with the despotic system. Monarchy could be constitutional in order to introduce the whole democracy aspect a lot more quickly.

I would join this team if it takes off.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Boy, this team better pick a religious civ, I would hate to see long stretches of anarchy...

Interesting idea, I will have to think on it.

[GodKing]

I like it.

[Apocalypse]

Togas, what do you think about how your Foriegn Ministry skills will be lessened by your team playing other human civs?

You won't be able to get great trade deals all the time anymore.

[Togas]

Foreign Affairs will be even more involved vs humans. I'm looking forward to THAT aspect of the game more than any other. Vs the CPU, you just have to know the formula and haggle around with the #s until it gives you the best possible deal. Vs a human, you have to convince him that this is the best possible deal, or truely negotiate deals. Plus, we can have more flexible deals, more complex alliances, and more fair tech sales and lux sales (The CPU doesn't always value these things "properly").

Hell, I could spend all week actually negotiating deals with human civs instead of the 2-3 minutes I spend finding the optimum value with an AI opponent. PTW is where you need a true diplomat as FAM, not just an number cruncher and bureaucrat.

On a related topic...

This thing will be TURNLESS, giving us almost no time to discuss what to do while the game is being played and probably making turnchats virtually impossible. Our gameplayer will have to do everything realtime other than the changes we can make the queues and workforce, etc, during the downtime that we have the save. Deals can be negotiated during the downtime, but they'll have to be put into play while the game is in progress. Our success will depend a lot on who we choose to actually play the game.

--Togas

[jdjdjd]

I would join this team, of course, I may not have a great deal of time, but certainly would help out as much as possible.

[GodKing]

I would nominate you togas to be our first dictator.

I think the first game will probably be PbEM, so we would, depending on the number of teams, have a day to work out all our build queues and such. I do not know how this works for trades and such. Perhaps it only means that if, for example there are 7 teams, each team gets it for a day at the most (say 24 hours after the email is sent) then only a single turn is played durring a week.

Togas, as you are our unifficial leader, what would you use as our team name? The Roleplay Team? Are we even a team yet?

[Togas]

I don't know about being our benevolent dictator yet. I don't have the game and won't have it until late November and if it's turnless multiplayer, then I'd MUCH prefer someone else control the game who has some experience and practice in multiplayer. That, and military tactics, are not my strong suits.

But I'll take over the leadership of getting the team together, etc.

Let's tentatively call this the "roleplay team" but once we have enough people together we should pick a new Civ and take on their name as our team name.

If this thing is to work, we need to put a lot of trust in our "Tribal Leader" -- he will need to also choose wise members of the tribe to do different tasks (Generals, messangers, governors, administrators, etc). He should step down every now and then due to retirement, death, whatever, and give control to a new dictator chosen by the tribe (or confirmed by the tribe if we all agree that "his successor" is worthy of the job).

Heck, and if we disagree during a major political change we can always have an unplanned period of anarchy where we just pass our turn and hand over the save to the next civ while we work out our new government or leader. ... but maybe that's a bit too much roleplay, you think?

As for New Civs, I haven't played any of them, but here's a rundown of the new civs:

Spanish Conquistador (3/2/2) Religious & Commercial
Mongols Keshik (4/2/2) Militaristic & Expansionist
Vikings Berserk (6/2/1) Militaristic & Expansionist
Celts Gallic Swordsman (3/2/2) Religious & Militaristic
Carthaginians Numidian Mercenary (2/3/1) Commercial & Industrious
Ottomans Sipahi (8/3/3) Industrious & Scientific
Arabs Ansar Warrior (4/2/3) Expansionist & Religious
Koreans Hwacha (12/1/1) Commercial & Scientific

My favorites from this list: Spanish, Vikings, Celts, Carthange, and Ottoman.

Thoughts?

--Togas

[GodKing]

Only thing is that expansionistic is IMO good for pangia type worlds, where you can grab goodie huts fast (love those free techs). Other than that, any one sounds good. Quick glance the Ottomans sound good, any idea what the sipahi replaces.

Oops, 6 pm here. Time to go home and hand out those candy treats.

[Togas]

Originally posted by GodKing
Quick glance the Ottomans sound good, any idea what the sipahi replaces.

Sipani replaces Cavalry, I believe.

--Togas

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

It sounds interesting but I'm really hoping I can find some people interested in doing a $Mini-game version where the players own the tiles and elect the ministers based on who they think will benefit their holdings.

I think that would be an interesting twist.

[Donegeal]

What does the Arabs Ansar Warrior replace? Horsemen? Swordmen? Knight? Long Bowmen?

[jdjdjd]

Ottomans would be interesting....thinking in advance, that may a good time for a GA. But I'm flexible, I'll change my persona and whether I play as a warmonger or peacenik, depending on our civ traits.

I won't have PTW for a month or so...GK, can you be our initial despot...you, as always, have my full support.

[Togas]

Originally posted by donegeal
What does the Arabs Ansar Warrior replace? Horsemen? Swordmen? Knight? Long Bowmen?

It replaces the Knight.

--Togas