Firaxis, please give me back high scores (HoF)!

[Purple]

Originally posted by vmxa1
Give us a tool to look at the HOF or make it a straight RTF file, so I can use wordpad. This would let me see what has been done with out loading Civ.

You can edit the HighScores.cv3 file in WordPad (or any text editor). If you know the numerical codes, you can add the modded games manually.

Each line contains the following information: Name, Civilization number, Score, Difficulty, Victory type, and Won/Lost.

The Civilization number follows the order in the Editor (at least it did for the original civs), as follows:

1 Rome
2 Egypt
3 Greece
4 Babylon
5 Germany
6 Russia
7 China
8 America
9 Japan
10 France
11 India
12 Persia
13 Aztec
14 KwaZulu*
15 Iroquois
16 England

17 Mongols
18 España*
19 Scandia*
20 Ottomans
21 Celt
22 Arabia
23 Carthage
24 Korea

*My personal mod uses these names. I use "Scandia," because "Scandinavia" is too long to fit into one of the reports and gets truncated.

Difficulty level 1 corresponds to Deity, 2 to Emperor, etc.

Victory types

0 Domination
1 Military
2 Cultural
3 Diplomatic
4 Space Race
5 Retired
6 Rank

I don't know if there are new codes for new PTW victory types.

For a while I was maintaining a parallel .rtf file so I could add other factors (date, map specs, number of players, culture points, and with the advent of PTW, elapsed time), but I've just decided that an .xls works better.

Anyway, add my voice to those requesting a more elaborate HoF, but if nothing else, Firaxis, please list modded games with an asterisk.

Edited to incorporate victory codes supplied by Mkinser.

[Minmaster]

well i think asking for more detailed HoF is currently too much to ask for, but all i want is for my scores to be logged no matter what rules i play. i mean its not like i make money by playing civ and the only one who sees the score is probably only me. i play no tourneys so its not like im gonna cheat the world showing off my high scores! this is very frustrating!

[Jaybe]

At the very least, HoF with an asterisk (*) to indicated a modded ruleset. I don't play plain vanilla rules at all anymore (SP only).

To have an Editor, but not include HoF entries if the Editor has been used seems a little inconsistent, doesn't it.

[jpinard]

I heartily agree. I want the HoF notating my games as well. If there were one feature I'd like this is it.

[vmxa1]

Originally posted by The Pioneer
I've never really cared for HIgh Scores! What's the point anyway !

So long...

Well I could say it is a game and does not need a point, it is called fun.
Really though the point could be that after playing a ton of games, you may find it a point of motivation to try to up your score. Since they are only for your benefit, they could be anything.

[Jaybe]

As it stands now, I suppose I will try to keep a Notepad record. Including dates played, all that other HoF info, mod title, etc.

Maybe this will help me get into the habit of annotating my game's history.
More Work! Less Play!

[Chuckles]

Yes the non recording in Hof SUCKS!!!! What they hell else do I play this game for? To have fun and have a record of my best games. Who cares for single player if I cheat out my ass or make it fair to all.

I WANT MY
I WANT MY
I WANT MY HOF!!!

[Aro]

Firaxis, Firaxis... You have something that belongs to us... our scores. Could we have it back? I like to play a mod called "Double your Pleasure" (Dyp). It's hard, with a lot of changes, resources, luxuries, and a new large tech tree (tough choices!), it's a very well balanced mod IMHO. I would like to have my performance recorded...
So, in the words of Chuckles,

Originally posted by Chuckles

I WANT MY
I WANT MY
I WANT MY HOF!!!

[Minmaster]

taking away HoF for people who use the editor/mods was quite possibly one of the major bonehead moves by firaxis, imo (right up there with shipping PtW w/ shoddy multiplayer). WTF were they thinking? and SHAME on you beta testers that didnt see this as a problem and let firaxis "intentionally" put it in!

[WarpStorm]

What makes you think the beta-testers didn't see it? All we can do is tell Firaxis about it.

[Master Marcus]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
What makes you think the beta-testers didn't see it? All we can do is tell Firaxis about it.

That's what we did, but since the "selective HoF" was intentionally put, I don't think we can change their mind about this. Perhaps a good coder can make some kind of mod- a modded HoF - somewhat of a local stats logging for modded games. Is this possible or not ?

[Minmaster]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
What makes you think the beta-testers didn't see it? All we can do is tell Firaxis about it.

i think u misunderstood me, i said "...beta testers that didnt see this as a problem..." meaning you guys didnt think this would be a problem. sorry if i came off offensive but i really dont understand the reasons behind the selective HoF.

[WarpStorm]

FWIW, the some of the beta testers (including myself) did complain once we noticed it.

[player1]

Still I think that having no HoF is better then having like in Civ2 HoF full with scores from Scenarios.

[Jaybe]

I'VE GOT IT!!
The HoF screen shows the "no changes" scores, but there is a drop-down menu of other scenarios which have scores saved.

Choose the scenario, and it shows the scores for those games!