Oppositions to Arabs

[Martinus Magnificus]

Originally posted by Ikarus
Yeah, like the Phoenicians too.

The Phoenicians are to be included in PTW, only they are called the Carthagenians. Firaxis made a mistake there. Carthage surely was their capitol, but they were called Phoenicians, not Carthagenians.

[Methril]

My civ belief has always been that if the civ was ever the strongest in the world,it deserves a spot.According to my logic that would include in order (i hope)...

1.Sumerians

2.Babylonians

3.Assyrians

4.Persia

5.Greece

6.Rome

7.Byzantine Empire,Mongol Empire

8.Charlemagne Empire and Holy Roman Empire

9.Kingdom of France

10.Great Britain (England)

11.Spain

12.Germany,England,France

13.United States,Soviet Union

14.United States

I'm just going by my historical memory here.This doesn't mean civs like China,India,Ottomans,Egypt and others don't deserve to be in the game.They all had their place whether it be technology,other science or immeasurable wealth.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Ikarus


It could be argued both.

The name-calling is unneccessary.

your mom is uneccessary

[Dinner]

Even if you don't play on the earth map there is still a valid argument against having to many civs from one geographic area. Since Civ3 is usually played with culturally linked starts, and each civ generally has better relations with civs from the same cultural group, we should do our best to make sure that each cultural group is blanced. Right now we are over loaded with mediterranean.

We should be doing a better job of balancing the different cultural groups.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Even if you don't play on the earth map there is still a valid argument against having to many civs from one geographic area. Since Civ3 is usually played with culturally linked starts, and each civ generally has better relations with civs from the same cultural group, we should do our best to make sure that each cultural group is blanced. Right now we are over loaded with mediterranean.

We should be doing a better job of balancing the different cultural groups.

culturally linked starting position is the only thing i ALWAYS turn off. pure randomness makes the game more interesting and your strategies more flexible!


in an old thread i once started, i asked for the idea of having 32 to 64 civs, of which you can choose whichever you want. i think with help of the community, firaxis could easily make this possible.

then you could play mediterranian games, american games, battle for the tigris/euphrat-games, etc.... without having to change the mods and units every time you want a new combination...

[rob.derosa]

Originally posted by Methril
My civ belief has always been that if the civ was ever the strongest in the world,it deserves a spot.According to my logic that would include in order (i hope)...

1.Sumerians

2.Babylonians

3.Assyrians

4.Persia

5.Greece

6.Rome

7.Byzantine Empire,Mongol Empire

8.Charlemagne Empire and Holy Roman Empire

9.Kingdom of France

10.Great Britain (England)

11.Spain

12.Germany,England,France

13.United States,Soviet Union

14.United States

I'm just going by my historical memory here.This doesn't mean civs like China,India,Ottomans,Egypt and others don't deserve to be in the game.They all had their place whether it be technology,other science or immeasurable wealth.

Is that 1 being the most powerfull? And why is France, England, US on there twice?

[Methril]

I put them on there twice because at two different "periods" they were the strongest countries in the world.The 1 is to show that they were the earliest.

[rob.derosa]

Originally posted by Methril
I put them on there twice because at two different "periods" they were the strongest countries in the world.The 1 is to show that they were the earliest.

But they cant be in the game twice, if they have been strong in just one period they still deserve a place , no need to put them on there twice.

[Ribannah]

Originally posted by Methril
My civ belief has always been that if the civ was ever the strongest in the world,it deserves a spot.According to my logic that would include in order (i hope)...

1.Sumerians
2.Babylonians
3.Assyrians
4.Persia
5.Greece
6.Rome
7.Byzantine Empire,Mongol Empire
8.Charlemagne Empire and Holy Roman Empire
9.Kingdom of France
10.Great Britain (England)
11.Spain
12.Germany,England,France
13.United States,Soviet Union
14.United States

You left out China, the Arabs and the Dutch.

[rob.derosa]

Originally posted by Ribannah


You left out China, the Arabs and the Dutch.

But they were not as powerful as the countries on the list.

[Blue Moose]

Originally posted by rob.derosa


But they were not as powerful as the countries on the list.

China and the Arabs certainly were at their heights of power.

[Ikarus]

Originally posted by Kramerman


your mom is uneccessary

That's it, you're not allowed at my home anymore!

[LionQ]

Originally posted by Blue Moose


China and the Arabs certainly were at their heights of power.

So were the Netherlands in the 17th century: they were the mighteist country in the world!

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by CivilopediaCity
so were the Netherlands in the 17th century: they were the mighteist country in the world!

please forgive my lack of history knowledge in this case... i didn't know that.

which parts of the world did they control (except present day's holland, republic south africa and some caribbean islands (antilles, etc.))?

[LionQ]

Indonesia, Malacca and Ceylon. In territory we weren't the biggest in territory, but in might and power we sure were! We, in Holland, call that period The Golden Age. In that period WE could say: Holland rules the waves.