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And by the way i live in Thessaloniki. It is not the Turks who are drooling over it, but the Bulgarians, Serbs, and Skopjans.
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"Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD. -
"Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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Skopjans??
Are thry not Macedonians?"An Outside Context Problem was the sort of thing most civilisations encountered just once, and which they tended to encounter rather in the same way a sentence encountered a full stop" - ExcessionComment
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Originally posted by Myrddin
Skopjans??
Are thry not Macedonians?
NO."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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@Myrddin :throws oil in the fire:
I guess to a grrek that statement is similar to the statement that a Welsh is British or Scots are british!
Anyway, Palaiologos gave you a direct answer.
So long...Excellence can be attained if you Care more than other think is wise, Risk more than others think is safe, Dream more than others think is practical and Expect more than others think is possible.
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And what about the Republic? Do you Turks believe it was the Ottoman's preffered goverment??
I think not."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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What DO you think is their prefered government??
Monarchy?
Despotism?Comment
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Monarchy."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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The Welsh and Scots are British- they aren't English.Originally posted by The Pioneer
@Myrddin :throws oil in the fire:
I guess to a grrek that statement is similar to the statement that a Welsh is British or Scots are british!
Anyway, Palaiologos gave you a direct answer.
So long...
The confusion usually arises from people abroad assuming England=Great Britain/United Kingdom, or sports commentators in Great Britain who, when a non-English team from the United Kingdom succeeds in reaching the final stages of a competition, suddenly get perplexed over what exactly constitutes British/English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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Molly, I do know that. I was giving Myrddin an example of insulting his statement is.
I would think that it would be despotism, since the Pashas was the one that ruled despotical. But despotism has a lot of drawbacks in Civ III and I would go for Monarchy.
So long...Excellence can be attained if you Care more than other think is wise, Risk more than others think is safe, Dream more than others think is practical and Expect more than others think is possible.
Ask a Question and you're a fool for 3 minutes; don't ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life! Chinese Proverb
Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago. Warren BuffetComment
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Ottomans ruled through monarchy
I think all of u know this, Ottomans were a sovereign like Habsburgs and ruled their subjects by monarchy.
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When I just look what people wrote was not about the game but about politics.I do not think any nation is blood thirsty or cruel but their cruelties because of their leaders.If a man like Genghis would rule in Greece I think Greeks would terrorize the civilizied world or if Mongols would be a settled nation instead of a nomadic nation they would be more peacefull.
So all of these conflicts are because of leaders who see the only way of solving their problems with power.
We are all children of God whatever u believe or not so we are all brothers and sisters.
Let peace a chance.Comment
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@Favorius
I think that the next time thinks heat up around the Aegean we should instead play an MP and solve the matter, how much more peaceful and fun can it get?
So long...Excellence can be attained if you Care more than other think is wise, Risk more than others think is safe, Dream more than others think is practical and Expect more than others think is possible.
Ask a Question and you're a fool for 3 minutes; don't ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life! Chinese Proverb
Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago. Warren BuffetComment
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its not just leaders, its many other outside environmental factors that causes the effect. Making "who stole the cookie from the cookie jar" game ala history style. Indeed, that game seems to get played alot in history when it comes to undesirable responsibilities like crime and atrocities.Originally posted by FavoriusTheTurc
When I just look what people wrote was not about the game but about politics.I do not think any nation is blood thirsty or cruel but their cruelties because of their leaders.If a man like Genghis would rule in Greece I think Greeks would terrorize the civilizied world or if Mongols would be a settled nation instead of a nomadic nation they would be more peacefull.
So all of these conflicts are because of leaders who see the only way of solving their problems with power.
We are all children of God whatever u believe or not so we are all brothers and sisters.
Let peace a chance.
"Calc II stole the cookies from the cookie Jar!"
"Who me?"
"Yes you"
"Couldn't be"
"Then who?"
"The pioneer stole the cookie from the cookie jar!"
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It is not the leaders that cause bloodbaths. It is the geopolitical goals of the nations. WWII would happen anyway, Hitler or not. Adolf just added a personal touch on the conflict.
Greece's and Turkey's geopolitical interests come in conflict, that's why animosity has arisen between the two nations. The Byzantine Empire although in constant war with the Turks was in fact a devoted ally of the Mongol Horde, who were far more bloodthirsty than the Turks.
This discussion has already taken place many pages before on this thread. I have continiusly urged all the people who post here to read the whole thing before posting anything. Please do."Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
All those who want to die, follow me!
Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.Comment
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