Medieval Infantry

[Optimizer]

In the Firaxis Chat a Medieval Infantry unit was mentioned. It seemed to have preliminary statistics 4/2/1.

What do we know about it?

Shouldn't it be called "Man-at-Arms" or something?

[Carver]

I think they're still looking for a permanent name, I'm sure they'll see yours.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Maybe "footsoldier", "commoner", or "squire".

[Caliban]

How about "useless unit nobody will ever build"...

[Sean]

Yes Caliban, if those are the actual stats of the unit, you could well be right. It isn't much better than an immortal or the longbowman.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Caliban
How about "useless unit nobody will ever build"...

You know, I didn't suggest the name that first came to mind "peasant". I thought you cound give it a move, attack, defend, and cost of 1.

Then send swarms of them to get in the way of the enemy.

[Coracle]

If you use Firaxis' simplistic basic values a lot of units have limitations. If you use a more developed and sensible mod Men-at-Arms, or the Landsknecht (for Germans), could be useful.

Same with Shock Troops - offensive infantry using new tactics. They first occured in 1917 at Caporetto, and were made obsolescent by tanks. But for a brief period they were very effective, and almost won WW I for the Germans in 1918.

[DrFell]

Originally posted by Caliban
How about "useless unit nobody will ever build"...

Perhaps... but it could be the swordsman upgrade unit requiring only iron (which would be nice). Could do with a 5 attack or so though, unless it's really cheap. But then it would need to come later than longbowmen else they would be completely useless...

I'm most interested in the new city improvements. Stock Exchange will be one, but I'm hoping to see a return of the civ2 superhighways improvement or something similar and some other improvements to 'fill out' the industrial and modern age. Also hoping to see the medieval and modern tech tree added too.

[Dimorier Maximus]

I think the Mongol UU replaces this new unit. As you can see the stats for the Keshik are 4.2.2, and if the stats for this unit are 4.2.1, then it makes sense for the Keshik to be one of these dudes on a horse.

I'd actually like to see this unit have different stats than a 4.2.1. Personally, I'm thinking 5.3.1. It would be an upgrade for the swordsman. That way, neither the Romans, nor the Persians would really lose much from an upgrade. As it stands, Persia would never care to upgrade, and Roman Legionaries would lose a defense point. Plus, we already have the cheap Longbowmen that are practically 4.2.1, even though they are actually 4.1.1. I would like this unit to be a slower, but stronger attacking version of the knight.

[Optimizer]

The Musketman should beat the Medieval Infantry, both defending and attacking. Thus, the Musketman's stats should be raised.

[NeoStar]

Hmm...maybe something to replace that damn swordsman.

I hate that tin hat bloke sticking around on the menu

[Papa Chubby]

I can only applaud the fact that they are beefing up the units list, but I doubt that they can add many new unique units, without introducing more unique capabilities.

As for a name for the little bugger, how about Cannon Fodder.

[Deathwalker]

Just so ong as it gets rid of that bloody swordsman. He sticks around way to long in the build list

[Caliban]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
Just so ong as it gets rid of that bloody swordsman. He sticks around way to long in the build list

Yep! Maybe you should be given the option to upgrade swordsmen to riflemen in industrial age...

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Why don't you make the swordsman upgrade in the editor? That's what I did.