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Er, let me guess - because they did something great?
* Adds giant list of Iroquois accomplishments from previous occasions *
* Adds giant list of Iroquois accomplishments from previous occasions *
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Its 'Civilzation 3', not 'Most Famous Civilizations 3'.Originally posted by Deathwalker
They shuld stick to countries that achieved something great. Like a Empire or Something. Not simple because there not repersented in the game
Empire? Calling them just 'great'... Empires are accountable for most the major wars in modern times. Is that 'great'? They travelled to nations like the Spanish to America and either killed or kept the local populations in slavery, treating them sub human. Is that 'great'?
(In)Famous, yes.
The Aborgines hung around with a unquie culture for about 40 000 years. Oldest ever (not most developed), but oldest. That's some achievement.
Australia has a good track record as well. We are the only so called 'western' nation in the Pacific (as well as NZ), have fought in all major wars (never started one though) and are amongst the most multicultural nations.
The Polynesians, Micronesians managed to spread out over hundreds of small, tropical islands and still thrive and keep a sense of unity.
Great is subject to opinion.
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That isn't a bad idea. The few times I've played on the world map there always has been a huge gap in that region.Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
If they were to put in any civ in Oceania, I would hope it to be Australia. Yes, the British Australia. But alas, Firaxis would never do such a thing, sober or not.
I just like the way it would round out the world map. I fixed that problem in my world map. As well as getting rid of most of the pesky tundra. The Germans start in Australia on my map, and the English start in a revamped Greenland.
The map around Oceania would have to be improved however..."Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." - Glen Bateman, The Stand (Stephen King)Comment
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You mean something like traveling from Tahiti to Hawai'i in a boat built with stone tools? I think you need to do some homework:Originally posted by Deathwalker
They shuld stick to countries that achieved something great.
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The unique great (??) civ in oceania is the Polynese Culture (from Hawaii to Moais).
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Country Name: Polynesia
Leader (Male): Kamehameha
Special Unit (Water Unit): Hokule'a (0/0/2 , probability to sink in sea is half than the default in the game, maximum of 1 unit carried. In ocean the probability to sink is normal.).
Specifics: Expansionist, Religious.
Civ Style: Oriental? Amerindian? I suggest a new one: Colonial (in ancient are huts, in renaissance are colonial houses like spanish colonial style mixed with the english one with some huts, in industrial and modern are similar to european cities, is a great option for an african civ, Iroquois or this one).Last edited by XarXo; August 4, 2002, 11:40.Signature: Optional signature you may use to appear at bottom of your postsComment
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Half the northern hemisphere needs to do their 'homework' when it comes to the OceaniaOriginally posted by axi0m
You mean something like traveling from Tahiti to Hawai'i in a boat built with stone tools? I think you need to do some homework:
http://pvs.hawaii.org/
What the...? Isn't that an attack from Dragonball ZOriginally posted by XarXo
Leader (Male): Kamehameha
Of course they'd need a new one, which is a reason they overlooked us. There is a unquie culture style to the Pacific so things like the palace and people icons would have to change. The city would also need to look different, especially in the ancient/medieval age but I agree with this colonial thing - industrial age/modern age could blend in european/asian influence...Originally posted by XarXo
Civ Style: Oriental? Amerindian? I suggest a new one: Colonial (in ancient are huts, in renaissance are colonial houses like spanish colonial style mixed with the english one with some huts, in industrial and modern are similar to european cities, is a great option for an african civ, Iroquois or this one).
Last edited by NeoStar; August 4, 2002, 23:30."Show me a man or a woman alone and I'll show you a saint. Give me two and they'll fall in love. Give me three and they'll invent the charming thing we call 'society'. Give me four and they'll build a pyramid. Give me five and they'll make one an outcast. Give me six and they'll reinvent prejudice. Give me seven and in seven years they'll reinvent warfare. Man may have been made in the image of God, but human society was made in the image of His opposite number, and is always trying to get back home." - Glen Bateman, The Stand (Stephen King)Comment
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Originally posted by NeoStar
What the...? Isn't that an attack from Dragonball Z
No no, , King Kamehameha (/Kam'(e)hameha/)
is a legendary Hawaiian king. Akira Toriyama always introduces jokes in the names of persons or thing in their stories. For example:
Goku: A verdurian japanese lunch
Gohan: A rice typical japanese lunch
Vegeta: VegetaL
Raditz, Nappa: Same as Goku
Broly: Borcoly
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What?! Your saying those cool saiyan names like Goku, Raditz and Vegeta are just food?Originally posted by XarXo
No no, , King Kamehameha (/Kam'(e)hameha/)
is a legendary Hawaiian king. Akira Toriyama always introduces jokes in the names of persons or thing in their stories. For example:
Goku: A verdurian japanese lunch
Gohan: A rice typical japanese lunch
Vegeta: VegetaL
Raditz, Nappa: Same as Goku
Broly: Borcoly
etc...
Well it certainly fooled us ignorant english speakers. Geez, I should stop watching cartoons....... nah
Well if King Kamehameha really existed, he gets my vote for leader of a Polynesia civ.
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What about those Polynesians, didn't they live in the pacific/somewhere? But maybe there population is not big enough, it's like having the Inuit in the game..
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I don't want the Aussies in civ3.Try my Lord of the Rings MAP out: Lands of Middle Earth v2 NEWS: Now It's a flat map, optimized for Conquests
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The Polynesians originate from South East Asia mainland.Originally posted by Hagbart
What about those Polynesians, didn't they live in the pacific/somewhere? But maybe there population is not big enough
They settled in Indonesia, methinks that's plenty in terms of population. Then they went on to settle on many pacific islands.
Eventually reached Madagascar, too.A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
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Great reason mateOriginally posted by Hagbart
I don't want the Aussies in civ3.
Unfortunately, only a small bit of Indo is considered Oceania. We're listed with a 30 mill odd population but counting the 500 mill Indo brings that's a substantial lack of representationOriginally posted by Ribannah
They settled in Indonesia, methinks that's plenty in terms of population.
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Well, as a consolation, I wouldn't mind to see Australia make it in as a civ in one of the next expansion packs.
Polynesia is higher on my list though.A horse! A horse! Mingapulco for a horse! Someone must give chase to Brave Sir Robin and get those missing flags ...
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Originally posted by Ribannah
Well, as a consolation, I wouldn't mind to see Australia make it in as a civ in one of the next expansion packs.
Polynesia is higher on my list though. We need all the support we can get.
The screenshots from gamespot have permanantly closed the issue of what we'll see in PTW (which is all good, despite the huge glut of Euro civs we are going to have) so the question to whether Australia, Polynesia or any Oceanic civ gets included rests of the possibility of another XP.
Unfortunately with the touch and go nature of the games market these days, you cant help doubting that will happen
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Unfortunitly, I won't be holding by breath to see a pacific nation in any civ 111 expansion.
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